Could Ja be let off premod to do the Lucky Dip for the UK Champs please?

[April madness]

Guys what is the big problem here? PM Kevin with any queries and stop airing it for all to see would be the protocol.

Can you imagine Roy, I did it - when Ja was banned the first time. Now I risk being banned myself, but do you really think ja was "posting ****e" (this was the way our admin put it), therefore had to be banned? I don't dare asking again, the answer could be an unhygienic one. Apparently ferret thinks she's at it again, why a premod then?

[Monique]

I am such an aggresive person often offending forum people with my posts...

You are Madz, you are!


Now seriously, I'm a mod myself on another forum and we are not tolerant at all regarding bullying or being abusive. But when we are forced to take some harsh action we always take care to explain why ... to the person and to the members (unless it's something touching privacy or interpersonal relationship)
That to me is a minimum when it comes to respect to people and freedom of speech.

[steedee]

Im sure come their wedding night some years from now, Ferrett and Ja will look back at all this inappropiate posting, pre-mod and banning business, smile and say "why didn't we just say how we really feel?"

Kids in love eh!

[wildJONESEYE]

Im sure come their wedding night some years from now, Ferrett and Ja will look back at all this inappropiate posting, pre-mod and banning business, smile and say "why didn't we just say how we really feel?"

Kids in love eh!

hahahahaha

[RocketRoy1983]

Well I for one dont know of anyone who could do a better job of running TSF.

[wildJONESEYE]

i just think enough is enough unshackle ja and move on UK Championship quals next week.

[April madness]

Well I for one dont know of anyone who could do a better job of running TSF.

This isn't about running TSF, Roy. This is about a couple of rather questionable moderatorial decisions. Showing off power. Doesn't impress me much, to be honest. And if TSF is getting rid of ja (and maybe other people) this way, that's the forum's loss, not ja's.

[Wim]

Ferret isn't the best communicator in the world I agree. But the argument that the the loss of a member(s) is by definition a loss for the forum is a very narrow minded point of view.

[totlxtc]

Ferret isn't the best communicator in the world I agree. But the argument that the the loss of a member(s) is by definition a loss for the forum is a very narrow minded point of view.

Ok, but if lets say one liked member, as Ja is hence there is a thread for her, then if she goes and people see this happen, won't they think that it is unfair and end up leaving themselves? This causes a domino effect.

At the moment I see many members here who all bring something to the forum. There are fountains of knowledge here. If these people are pushed out then I feel it is "The forums loss".

[Wim]

Ok, but if lets say one liked member, as Ja is hence there is a thread for her, then if she goes and people see this happen, won't they think that it is unfair and end up leaving themselves? This causes a domino effect.

At the moment I see many members here who all bring something to the forum. There are fountains of knowledge here. If these people are pushed out then I feel it is "The forums loss".

Yes of course, I agree with the way you define and argue this

[noel]

Ferret isn't the best communicator in the world I agree. But the argument that the the loss of a member(s) is by definition a loss for the forum is a very narrow minded point of view.

If we really are, as I believe, a on-line "Community" then this is a very important issue.

As you all know, and thankfully tolerate, my posts usually go for a "different" point of view, verbally and visually.
This one is no different, so bear with me... just two things to consider...

Loss of a member...

1. We are seeing played out right here on these "pages" one of the crucial dramas of human evolution.
The one that allowed humans to rise to the top of the food chain like scum, I mean cream.
In the balance of nature all herds are culled... the youngest, the oldest, the weakest, the sickest, but always the slowest first.
Hunters being so much more intelligent than stupid animals go for the "Trophy" kill. Just like cops on the motorway go for the "fastest",
similarly in governments and other power structures, those who want to maintain control cull the most powerful dissenting voices.
This is the path to "extinction".

2. Imagine you know what "cancer" is. Imagine for a second you are a medical researcher and know what a "telomere" is.
Imagine you believe than human organizations are like organic, living entities and that every single part is essential to
the balance of the whole. Now, imagine that you are or I am or Ja is a "telomere".

...the loss of a single telomere can generate a variety of chromosome alterations commonly associated with human cancer, not only on a chromosome that loses its telomere but also on other chromosomes. Factors promoting telomere loss are therefore likely to have an important role in generating the karyotype evolution associated with human cancer.

*




=o|

Noel

* http://mcr.aacrjournals.org/content/3/3/139.abstract

[checkSide]

Loss of a member...

1. We are seeing played out right here on these "pages" one of the crucial dramas of human evolution.
The one that allowed humans to rise to the top of the food chain like scum, I mean cream.
In the balance of nature all herds are culled... the youngest, the oldest, the weakest, the sickest, but always the slowest first.
Hunters being so much more intelligent than stupid animals go for the "Trophy" kill. Just like cops on the motorway go for the "fastest",
similarly in governments and other power structures, those who want to maintain control cull the most powerful dissenting voices.
This is the path to "extinction".

2. Imagine you know what "cancer" is. Imagine for a second you are a medical researcher and know what a "telomere" is.
Imagine you believe than human organizations are like organic, living entities and that every single part is essential to
the balance of the whole. Now, imagine that you are or I am or Ja is a "telomere".
=o|

Noel

Allow me to summarise for you Noel.

1. Ja did not come through the "survival of the fittest".

2. Ja is the "trophy kill".

3. Removing Ja will set off an inexorable chain of events, leading the forum to metaphorical cancer.

Comparing the internal events of an online snooker forum to evolution, human hunting habits, and the causes of cancer may seem melodramatic to some, but not me!
I totally agree with your sentiments.

[totlxtc]

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[noel]

42 responses in 4 days, mainly saying free her. Think its fair enough to say Ja wont be un-premodded and is being used as an example. I thought bullying was not allowed on the forum???

Dan... I am with you in this [ great image btw ] as you know.
But I disagree with you about Ja not being un-modded.

Ferret is surely clever enough to manage this "hostage taking" panic.
A "real leader" would admit their mistake [ see this thread about TSF being scammed...
http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board/showthread.php?t=20834 ]
and make points on "looking like a "good guy" by doing "the right thing, afterall".


FREE JA FERRET!
It's only common sense, right?!?




=o|

Noel

[Kathrin]

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