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  • Power Draw Shot

    Here is a shot to challenge a friend with.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-u6zKnEq_s
    http://www.forcefollow.com
    http://www.youtube.com/user/forcefollow

  • #2
    Dear FF,
    Might I be so bold as to offer you a little help regarding the reasons it took you 3 times to screw back into the pocket?

    Your left hand might be better a touch closer to the white ball when you want to screw back with lots of back spin.

    The more cue that goes through the white, the more spin that occurs on the white ball. Having your bridge hand slightly closer helps to achieve this.

    Also, your cue action doesn't help you, in that firstly you are not lined up on the shot with enough stability to control any follow through you offer, and also when you follow through, you are jabbing the cue, meaning that you are plulling back, almost like pulling a punch.

    What you should be looking for is to extend the cue through the white ball , in such a fashion as the action involves no backwards manoevre, nor sudden halt, but instead continues to travel forward until the extreme of your right arm pendulum against your chest is reached.

    If you don't play against your chest, it's fairly simplt to achieve. Look at the line from white ball to object ball, and with your right heel, find that line, so that when you stand, the heel is in the line of the shot.

    With right leg extended stiff, and left leg slightly forward, the body structure should accomodate the cue on the chest.

    This time when you address the ball, your body will be much more of a balanced frame, and your head can then come down towards the cue in order to both sight, and stableize your chin.

    For your information, playing a similar shot on a table with knap, you can screw back with side, and the side spin will enable the white to gradually move off course and into the middle of the table.

    In snooker, this would be beneficial in potting a red down the rail and screwing for the blue.

    Good to see you enjoying the game of pool. In my younger years I played all over, and made many friends in the game along the way.

    20 years ago, a guy I regularly practised with was the world champion at the time called Tommy Donlan. Pehaps if you come across him you could say hello for me. He was indeed one of the true talents, and was just as good at snooker as he was pool, and 9 ball.

    All the best,

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    • #3
      Hey thanks for the feedback. This is exactly the type of comments that I hope to stimulate when I post things.

      There are more flaws with my technique than I can mention. The head is a major issue but I have never been able to make the locked out leg work. I am a rather tall person and I just can't make the locked leg comfortable. My timing is also terrible which is the biggest flaw in my stroke. At times I am able to practice enough to work these things out but alas I work full time.

      Thanks again for taking the time to post your analysis, I agree with you 100%.
      http://www.forcefollow.com
      http://www.youtube.com/user/forcefollow

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      • #4
        If you have the time, the 2 links below take you to pdf's that you can read.

        One is Steve Davis' book, and the other John Spencers.


        Please be aware that the first time I visited this site, it appeared quite safe, but 'before' I got a threat warning, though my AVG free dealt with it, so if we can say 'view at own risk' it would be safer.

        I hope it was just me.

        http://www.scribd.com/doc/39639305/Spencer-on-Snooker

        http://www.scribd.com/doc/10042078/S...er-Steve-Davis

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        • #5
          Originally Posted by forcefollow View Post
          ...I am a rather tall person and I just can't make the locked leg comfortable...
          hi there, forcefollow... although many textbooks advocate locking the leg, i have a back condition that doesn't allow that; locking my right leg straight (i'm right-handed) simply puts too much stress on my dodgy back and i have to play wth my leg slightly bent... takes a bit of re-adjustment but seems to work fine now, i.e. quite confident knocking in long straight blues.

          i guess what i'm trying to say is, don't put undue stress onto your body in trying to conform to a "standard" or "perfect" stance, you may end up hurting yourself in the long run... body dynamics differ from person to person and with a bit of experimentation, you can achieve a comfortable stance that offers you the stability to cue straight.
          When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back. GET MAD!!

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by damienlch View Post
            hi there, forcefollow... although many textbooks advocate locking the leg, i have a back condition that doesn't allow that; locking my right leg straight (i'm right-handed) simply puts too much stress on my dodgy back and i have to play wth my leg slightly bent... takes a bit of re-adjustment but seems to work fine now, i.e. quite confident knocking in long straight blues.

            i guess what i'm trying to say is, don't put undue stress onto your body in trying to conform to a "standard" or "perfect" stance, you may end up hurting yourself in the long run... body dynamics differ from person to person and with a bit of experimentation, you can achieve a comfortable stance that offers you the stability to cue straight.
            AMEN - I actually take Morphine because of my back, so in my book the back comes first.

            Experimentation is key. Just try to realise what you're trying to achieve, before you experiment.

            One of the tallest players I've ever met used to look like a Giraffe kneeling for water when he played, but boy could he play.

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            • #7
              Originally Posted by firefrets View Post


              20 years ago, a guy I regularly practised with was the world champion at the time called Tommy Donlan. Pehaps if you come across him you could say hello for me. He was indeed one of the true talents, and was just as good at snooker as he was pool, and 9 ball.

              All the best,

              I remember playing Tommy at a few frames of snooker, one of his entourage said he would give me a pasting... but, for him... end well it did not.

              Love slapping down pool players who think they're the bees knees because of a title they hold ( no, before you ask, I never was worthy of WC at pool or any cuesport discipline ), it's just funny how those encounters go down at times.

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              • #8
                head movement, body movement and cueing across the ball, you could try that all day on a snooker table and never even get close.
                https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by forcefollow View Post
                  Here is a shot to challenge a friend with.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-u6zKnEq_s
                  Nice vid. Sweetly taken on your 3rd attempt.

                  Awesome work with the St Judes Hospital!
                  Last edited by Inoffthered; 8 March 2011, 08:47 PM. Reason: Factual content.

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                  • #10
                    @firefrets

                    Greats links to cool books.

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