Mosconi cup 2014

[billabong]

I watched a bit last night and realised it's actually more harder to miss those pockets then pot, i mean come on there was one ball that was about 3 inches off target which ended up in the pocket

Definitely not about tight bags and difficulty of potting. You've still got to beat the guy in front of you, who has the same table to play on.

If it was all about tight pockets, we'd all be playing Russian Biliards. .

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[billabong]

My mistake I thought the aim of a good 9 ball player was someone who is good at potting each ball in turn, obviously not.

The aim is to do the job better than your opponent. Same as Snooker.

[Leo]

The aim is to do the job better than your opponent. Same as Snooker.

Fair enough I suppose

[Kieran m]

Isn't quite as easy as it looks, Steve Davis, Ronnie, Tony Drago have all played 9 ball on the mosconi cup and ALL have missed pots... Go figure

[jonny66]

Yep, it's more about playing a good safety game, which is obviously very difficult on that super fast cloth, those pockets also accept the white ball just as easily, so you need to watch out for that. It's the atmosphere I like about the Mosconi cup though, it's half way between darts and snooker, perfect.

[SnookerFan]

Is Michaela Tabb refereeing? That's usually why she doesn't do the UKs.

[jonny66]

Not seen her so far

[itx]

There's also some classy cuemen out there as well in all fairness.

[Chappy5]

Just watched day 2 right now.

I still cannot get over not just the size of the pockets but the way they accept balls especially on long rail shots! I saw at least 8 shots today which were long down the rail shots and every time the object ball hit/glanced the cushion at least a foot from the pocket and still it was accepted by the corner pocket! There is NO way that happens on any Snooker table or even my table at home! Unreal how forgiving those pockets are really.

They are good players though i admit that and control the Cue ball well but gee whiz there is a heap of room for error on those tables and the tables this year are more forgiving than last years tables and i watched that one to. You have to really stuff up for the pocket not to accept your ball but from what i have seen the last 2 days the room for error is massive.

[billabong]

Just watched day 2 right now.

I still cannot get over not just the size of the pockets but the way they accept balls especially on long rail shots! I saw at least 8 shots today which were long down the rail shots and every time the object ball hit/glanced the cushion at least a foot from the pocket and still it was accepted by the corner pocket! There is NO way that happens on any Snooker table or even my table at home! Unreal how forgiving those pockets are really.

They are good players though i admit that and control the Cue ball well but gee whiz there is a heap of room for error on those tables and the tables this year are more forgiving than last years tables and i watched that one to. You have to really stuff up for the pocket not to accept your ball but from what i have seen the last 2 days the room for error is massive.

The mistake your making is that you keep comparing it with snooker. . #

It's 9 ball pool, and the pocket size is controlled just as much ( I think ) as snooker.

Once you get your head round the fact that the pockets have always been big ( 50 + years etc ),

then you realise that , although yes in some instances it allows for a wayward shot to still go in,

in most circumstances, this allows the players to aim at different parts of the pocket, in order to

get the position they require.

In the cases where you saw the ball hit a foot from the pocket, think how much the cue ball would have

been different, if the player, aiming a foot from the cushion for the pot, had played it badly, and hit the center

of the pocket.

It's not a case of "my bags are tighter than your bags, therefore your game should make then tighter", it's just the case that it's a totally different game. . .

[Chappy5]

I understand that!

Don't call me Leo either.

I am just stating what i am seeing and the difference that's all. If you don't like it maybe opinion forums are not your go??

[billabong]

I understand that!

Don't call me Leo either.

I am just stating what i am seeing and the difference that's all. If you don't like it maybe opinion forums are not your go??

I'm open to all opinions sir, but surely you don't thing a forum is just to give your opinion , then not allow anyone to try and

give a counter opinion, or try and explain why I thought your opinion was miss-placed ?

We all see the same thing , ( in this case 9 ball ) differently, and it would be boring if it was any other way.

I don't think I said anywhere that I didn't like what you are saying.

[Chappy5]

I'm open to all opinions sir, but surely you don't thing a forum is just to give your opinion , then not allow anyone to try and

give a counter opinion, or try and explain why I thought your opinion was miss-placed ?

We all see the same thing , ( in this case 9 ball ) differently, and it would be boring if it was any other way.

I don't think I said anywhere that I didn't like what you are saying.

I am all for counter opinions and these are fine but when you call me or label me as Leo who i am not ( Nice Edit by the way lol ) not to mention tell me to " Get your head around things " etc in a condescending way like i am a 12yo of course i am going to reply back to it!!

What is it with the new bolded names and the subscription service? Everyone that has them now seem to be very high strung and just want to jump on others like they are free to post what they want taking potshots at others....

[billabong]

I mistakenly typed Leo, who had posted yesterday. No freudian slip there honest, just my mistake.

I usually edit things when I make a mistake, but should have explained it, in the "reason for editing" option.

Sorry if it came across as condescending, as I was just trying to try to form an informative counter response

to your opinion ( unsuccessfully it seems ).

The last bit about being highly strung, jumping on others,and taking potshots, if you can accept the bit about trying to give

you an informative counter opinion, you can hopefully see that my post was intended as anything but that.

:encouragement:

[jonny66]

I like the big pockets. Bigger pockets allow for more flamboyant positional play, much more shots played with side, jump shots and swerved pots are a lot more common in 9-ball than in snooker. I know jump shots are illegal in snooker but even if they weren't I don't think players would use them much, not to pot balls anyway.

Apples and Oranges really, I can appreciate both games.