Lest we are ignorant!

[noel]

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Noel

[Mignon]

Ignorance is bad but curable. All ignorant people need is something to spur curiosity (like Noel did in the image above) and off they go to google search and wikipedia. Ignorance is bad. What's worse is not giving a damn.

[Wim]

Interesting and a sad thing of course, but ask 2000 children in the Russian region how they see the world and you will be - at least - very shocked what they think about us as well.

[Odrl]

Well, what exactly does "children" mean? You can't expect 6 year olds to know details about the world wars... As it should be in my opinion.

But 14 year olds? It's a massive difference.

[noel]

Well, what exactly does "children" mean? You can't expect 6 year olds to know details about the world wars... As it should be in my opinion.

But 14 year olds? It's a massive difference.

I didn't say six year olds, mate.
I said "One in six... "



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Noel

[RocketRoy1983]

A disturbing read. My 14 year old brother came home from school today and when I asked him what he'd done at 11am he replied "I was in History making paper aeroplanes"

The 14 year old kids fault or his teachers who blissfully ignored?

[Odrl]

I didn't say six year olds, mate.
I said "One in six... "

Yes, I realize what you meant. I was just wondering what age group we are talking about. Childhood would be where we learn most of this kind of things, through education, and it makes a huge difference from one year to another.

[noel]

Yes, I realize what you meant. I was just wondering what age group we are talking about. Childhood would be where we learn most of this kind of things, through education, and it makes a huge difference from one year to another.

Odrl...
The survey, conducted by Erskine, which takes care of around 1,350 war veterans, asked 2,000 children aged nine to 15...


Cheers.


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Noel

[kokokol]

What country is that survey from? I don't think that such a high percentage in Germany would for instance say that Ausschwitz was a Theme Park or the Holocaust was a celebration. Anyway, the horrible past is very present at german schools (as far as I can tell), like 7 of 10 books you get to read there deal with the third Reich. Plus my school excursions two times lead us to so called "Vernichtungslager"/"Konzentrationslager", places where jews, homosexuals and so on were killed. I think, almost every student in Germany at least once visits such a place, which make the Holocaust even more present - thats probably not possible for canadian kids.
Nevertheless, of course there are still (too much) nazis who try to influence children. There was a survey some months ago which said that xenophobia was growing again.

Please excuse my lousy english, but I just finished school and I'm a bit out of practise ;-)

[jrc750]

Please excuse my lousy english, but I just finished school and I'm a bit out of practise ;-)

Your English is better than most people who live in England ! interesting to hear the German viewpoint - thanks

[noel]

What country is that survey from?

Thanks for sharing your experience!
Survey was done in UK, 2009.


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Noel

[cantpotforshíte]

Interesting survey results Noel. I clearly remember being confused between Doomsday and D-Day when I was 8 or 9 years old. (At least I like to think I was that young.) The survey was obviously done as a multiple choice which is why we get answers like the Blitz being confused with a clean-up operation. After all, when a child is told to blitz their bedroom by their parents, it means to clean it up.
What I fear would be a lot more disturbing would be a survey of adults in the UK from a cross section of communities with similar questions and no multiple choice.

[Kathrin]

What country is that survey from? I don't think that such a high percentage in Germany would for instance say that Ausschwitz was a Theme Park or the Holocaust was a celebration. Anyway, the horrible past is very present at german schools (as far as I can tell), like 7 of 10 books you get to read there deal with the third Reich. Plus my school excursions two times lead us to so called "Vernichtungslager"/"Konzentrationslager", places where jews, homosexuals and so on were killed. I think, almost every student in Germany at least once visits such a place, which make the Holocaust even more present - thats probably not possible for canadian kids.
Nevertheless, of course there are still (too much) nazis who try to influence children. There was a survey some months ago which said that xenophobia was growing again.

Thumbs up! Couldn´t have said it better.

[ChatLag]

What country is that survey from? I don't think that such a high percentage in Germany would for instance say that Ausschwitz was a Theme Park or the Holocaust was a celebration. Anyway, the horrible past is very present at german schools (as far as I can tell), like 7 of 10 books you get to read there deal with the third Reich. Plus my school excursions two times lead us to so called "Vernichtungslager"/"Konzentrationslager", places where jews, homosexuals and so on were killed. I think, almost every student in Germany at least once visits such a place, which make the Holocaust even more present - thats probably not possible for canadian kids.
Nevertheless, of course there are still (too much) nazis who try to influence children. There was a survey some months ago which said that xenophobia was growing again.

Please excuse my lousy english, but I just finished school and I'm a bit out of practise ;-)

I still remember that school excursion we made. One of the most important event at school in retrospective. I know exactly how I felt there and how horrifying that was. It was not understandable what horrible things humans can do to others.
And that cynical "Arbeit macht frei" (work frees) mounted at the entrance.
That excursion was so nightmarish that it is still alive in my memories.
And that was 1982!

[noel]

I still remember that school excursion we made. One of the most important event at school in retrospective. I know exactly how I felt there and how horrifying that was. It was not understandable what horrible things humans can do to others.
And that cynical "Arbeit macht frei" (work frees) mounted at the entrance.
That excursion was so nightmarish that it is still alive in my memories.
And that was 1982!

Yes ChatLag...
I too did that trip in 1965... I was 15.
Never forget Dachau. Ever.


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Noel