Room 101

[vmax]

I went to the 2012 Paralympics here when we hosted the games, it was a fantastic day and so heart warming to see these talented people have a real stage on which to showcase their hard work and dedication. For them to have this outlet to compete is so important in our society and its success speaks for itself.

If all you can see is disabled people struggling when you watch it you've completely missed the point.

I think the point is that they are stretching themselves, and good for them, but it's not something I enjoy watching, sorry Invictus games even worse I feel. We have a disabled bloke at work, one leg and a damaged hand, and when I'm working near him I help him all the time rather than stand back and let him do it all himself, which is probably what he wants, but I feel compelled to help as it's my nature.

[Mark187187]

I think the point is that they are stretching themselves, and good for them, but it's not something I enjoy watching, sorry Invictus games even worse I feel. We have a disabled bloke at work, one leg and a damaged hand, and when I'm working near him I help him all the time rather than stand back and let him do it all himself, which is probably what he wants, but I feel compelled to help as it's my nature.

Not sure that is your nature, sounds like you'd rather he wasn't allowed to work at all because it makes you uncomfortable. Between that and thinking we're evolved from stoned apes, it sounds like you need to do some more time reading books and avoiding peculiar corners of the internet

[itsnoteasy]

Not sure that is your nature, sounds like you'd rather he wasn't allowed to work at all because it makes you uncomfortable. Between that and thinking we're evolved from stoned apes, it sounds like you need to do some more time reading books and avoiding peculiar corners of the internet

are you saying you dont believe in evolution?

[Mark187187]

are you saying you dont believe in evolution?

No, of course I do. Natural selection and all that is pretty well established. But, Vmax refers to what is known as the 'stoned ape' theory in his post. The theory that apes evolved into humans due to ingesting magic mushrooms, which super charged their brains. It is nonsense, but some people believe anything they read on the internet. This is what he said:

"humans evolved from apes and probably evolved a high intelligence at an accelerated rate due to ingestion of pyschoactive plants by the pregnant females. This is a thesis that cannot be proven but it holds up intellectually"

100% doesn't hold up intellectually

[vmax]

Not sure that is your nature, sounds like you'd rather he wasn't allowed to work at all because it makes you uncomfortable. Between that and thinking we're evolved from stoned apes, it sounds like you need to do some more time reading books and avoiding peculiar corners of the internet

He's fine with his work except that as he only has one leg, and his false leg cannot bend, he struggles carrying the 25 kg bags of material that he needs to feed into his machine, so I fetch them for him when I'm working close to him, others don't. If that makes me a bad person then so be it.

I've got over three hundred books on shelves in my flat, including Food Of The Gods, True Hallucinations, The Archaic Revival, and The Invisible Landscap written by the late ethnobotanist Terence McKenna. My beliefs and the knowledge that went into forming them was gained from reading books on subjects that I was interested in long before the advent of the internet. I don't google anything I wish to know apart from trivia like dates, names and places etc.

The Los Angeles Times book review said of McKenna's Food Of The Gods, " Remarkable............There is a logic to McKenna's two principal arguments that cannot be dismissed", except by religious spokesmen for obvious reasons and those like yourself who cannot even give a reason.

[Mark187187]

He's fine with his work except that as he only has one leg, and his false leg cannot bend, he struggles carrying the 25 kg bags of material that he needs to feed into his machine, so I fetch them for him when I'm working close to him, others don't. If that makes me a bad person then so be it.

I've got over three hundred books on shelves in my flat, including Food Of The Gods, True Hallucinations, The Archaic Revival, and The Invisible Landscap written by the late ethnobotanist Terence McKenna. My beliefs and the knowledge that went into forming them was gained from reading books on subjects that I was interested in long before the advent of the internet. I don't google anything I wish to know apart from trivia like dates, names and places etc.

The Los Angeles Times book review said of McKenna's Food Of The Gods, " Remarkable............There is a logic to McKenna's two principal arguments that cannot be dismissed", except by religious spokesmen for obvious reasons and those like yourself who cannot even give a reason.

Well, McKenna's hypothesis (it's not actually a theory as there isn't any evidence or proof for any of it) isn't based on any science or research, and much of it can be debunked. One obvious problem, is that the brain development in African apes he suggests were caused by magic mushrooms, couldn't have happened because the climate at that time in this area wouldn't have supported the growth of magic mushrooms. He also says they improve vision in a way which would aid hunting. This has also been disproved, and the citations he provides as evidence don't say what he says they say. The whole point of scientific study is to find a proof of a hypothesis. Mckenna provides a hypothesis but no proof.

[Cue crafty]

I prefer the artic monkeys personally. They are definitely descended from Homonins specific to the musical tribes.

[Starsky]

I prefer the artic monkeys personally. They are definitely descended from Homonins specific to the musical tribes.

I prefer magic mushrooms but only in my traveller raving days 30 years ago . I think those apes were onto something ….. This is the end my beautiful friend

[Cue crafty]

I prefer magic mushrooms but only in my traveller raving days 30 years ago . I think those apes were onto something ….. This is the end my beautiful friend

Well opened a few "Doors" for people! Jim was definitely a Monkey man.

[itsnoteasy]

When I was young a few of my pals used to partake in the shrooms. They were all thick as pig ****.

[vmax]

Well, McKenna's hypothesis (it's not actually a theory as there isn't any evidence or proof for any of it) isn't based on any science or research, and much of it can be debunked. One obvious problem, is that the brain development in African apes he suggests were caused by magic mushrooms, couldn't have happened because the climate at that time in this area wouldn't have supported the growth of magic mushrooms. He also says they improve vision in a way which would aid hunting. This has also been disproved, and the citations he provides as evidence don't say what he says they say. The whole point of scientific study is to find a proof of a hypothesis. Mckenna provides a hypothesis but no proof.

You obviously haven't read McKenna and have simply googled what you want to back your discord. McKenna writes about many different plants that humans encountered as they migrated across the world which they put into their diet. The start of the human migration was from africa and the iboga plant is the one that's seen by many as the genesis of human intelligence as it's active alkaloid releases deep subconscious memories that can even go beyond ones own life and tap into the collective unconscious as Jung has called it.

Ibogaine is a drug that is used experimentally today to treat drug addiction, but as it's been placed in category 1 of narcotics in the USA it's use is limited because it's illegal. McKenna believed that the magic mushroom was the genesis of the evolution of human language which along with enhanced memory gave humans the ability to convey those memories through speach rather than action, the beginning of teaching.

You say McKenna's hypothesis has been disproved, maybe you could tell us by whom and how a hypothesis that cannot be proven can be disproven.

[JC_snooker_37]

You obviously haven't read McKenna and have simply googled what you want to back your discord. McKenna writes about many different plants that humans encountered as they migrated across the world which they put into their diet. The start of the human migration was from africa and the iboga plant is the one that's seen by many as the genesis of human intelligence as it's active alkaloid releases deep subconscious memories that can even go beyond ones own life and tap into the collective unconscious as Jung has called it.

Ibogaine is a drug that is used experimentally today to treat drug addiction, but as it's been placed in category 1 of narcotics in the USA it's use is limited because it's illegal. McKenna believed that the magic mushroom was the genesis of the evolution of human language which along with enhanced memory gave humans the ability to convey those memories through speach rather than action, the beginning of teaching.

You say McKenna's hypothesis has been disproved, maybe you could tell us by whom and how a hypothesis that cannot be proven can be disproven.

Tell the truth.... Are you Duncan Trussell? 😄