China Open vs Tibet humilation

[wildhoney28]

Probably many of you have heard about killing Tibetians by Chinese police in last days.
Problem exist from years and now is escalation of this because Bejing 2008 olympics is starting soon.
Someone mentioned that R.O'Sullivan is thinking about boicoting China Open this year.
It is very doubtful cause ,money ,sponsors and China-market pressure in WSA is much stronger than simply solidarity with people who are killing and humiliating every day.
It is not only Tibet dissaster, also China Goverment is sending weapon to Darfur which is using to kill thousands forgotten people there.
Maybe it is time to say enough?
Maybe players should show to all world solidarity with helpless people also women and children in Asia and Africa?
As I said I don't believe they are able to boicoting(sadly) but little Tibet flag on waistcoat it will be sign of their protest against that!
Well, dont you think that idea is worth of popularise?

Here it is:http://www.tibet.com/flag.html

[dantuck_7]

I don't think a tibetan flag would be allowed!

I also heard that the Chinese authorities have built a huge road leading to Mt Everest desecrating the region.

[PaulTheSoave]

Well, thats double standards for you. US & UK & The Netherlands as well invading Iraq and Afghanistan under the flag, "human rights" and so called dangers (nuclear weapons never found) threatening us, haha!

But then, an invasion in China might not be so "succesfull" as the one in Iraq was .

[hegeland]

It's an interesting question. I wouldn't blame the player who chooses not to participate.

I agree with Paul though, the Iraq invasion is every bit as doubtful as the Chinese occupation of Tibet.

And what about a tournament in the middle east? Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Oman Kuwait, etc are totalitarian dictatorships. I would be ashamed the day WSA organises a tournament in that region.

[matoski]

Probably many of you have heard about killing Tibetians by Chinese police in last days.
Problem exist from years and now is escalation of this because Bejing 2008 olympics is starting soon.
Someone mentioned that R.O'Sullivan is thinking about boicoting China Open this year.
It is very doubtful cause ,money ,sponsors and China-market pressure in WSA is much stronger than simply solidarity with people who are killing and humiliating every day.
It is not only Tibet dissaster, also China Goverment is sending weapon to Darfur which is using to kill thousands forgotten people there.
Maybe it is time to say enough?
Maybe players should show to all world solidarity with helpless people also women and children in Asia and Africa?
As I said I don't believe they are able to boicoting(sadly) but little Tibet flag on waistcoat it will be sign of their protest against that!
Well, dont you think that idea is worth of popularise?

Here it is:http://www.tibet.com/flag.html

Is this guy retarded, or what?

[matoski]

Tibet is not occupied, it is a part of China just like Taiwan and Hong Kong. And Kosovo is a part of Serbia as well. So stop commenting about politics and concentrate on snooker. I'm looking forward to the start of Chinese open and i don't give a damn about Ronnies decision about his participation in the tournament.

[PaulTheSoave]

As this is on the off topic chat, we can discuss anything we like and if you dont like it, dont comment then. And I am certainly not going to be bullied and be told what I should say or not say!

Tibet is not occupied, it is a part of China just like Taiwan and Hong Kong. And Kosovo is a part of Serbia as well. So stop commenting about politics and concentrate on snooker. I'm looking forward to the start of Chinese open and i don't give a damn about Ronnies decision about his participation in the tournament.

[wildhoney28]

To matoski:Who,s retarded?
Probably you.
With that kind of thinking your Macedonia is still part of Yugoslavia.
Your ignorance is just unbeliavable.It is not about politics it is about people's life and death.
And it is strictly about snooker not rugby,F1 or favourite songs.

[matoski]

To matoski:Who,s retarded?
Probably you.
With that kind of thinking your Macedonia is still part of Yugoslavia.
Your ignorance is just unbeliavable.It is not about politics it is about people's life and death.
And it is strictly about snooker not rugby,F1 or favourite songs.

Part of Yugoslavia? Yugoslavia does not exist since 1991.
If you are so concerned about people's lives then what about the UK army killing Iraqies and Afgans on a daily basis. Should the players boicot UK open, or maybe the World Championship in Shefild.

[Monique]

Truth is human rights in Tibet have been violated and ignored for decades, the natives oppressed and pushed up in the mountains to give the richer valley grounds to Chinese, the women forced to abortion by the most barbarian methods, the culture damaged, the natural resources (water) exploited without respect for environmental future ... and nobody gives a **** because the big powers of this World have no financial interest in Tibet and a lot in China.
Having said that I want to make clear to every chinese member on this board that they as individuals can't be held responsible in anyway for decisions made by politicians and industry "captains" ... This is not a go on any member over here. Actually I think the chinese people in general has been the victim of their political regime(s) over the centuries more than anyone else ...

And I dare anyone to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. I've been a member of Tibet Development Foundation for years and we have seen too much misery in the refugees camps in Nepal and too many people attempting to cross the Himalaya mountains in the heart of the winter in attempts to escape their fate to be able to ignore the reality of the horror.

[matoski]

China has every right to prevent the Tibetian secessionism supported by the western countries. They don't want another Taiwan scenario in their country.

[Monique]

China has every right to prevent the Tibetian secessionism supported by the western countries. They don't want another Taiwan scenario in their country.

Matoski, I wont express here what feelings your post trigger in me, it would be inappropriate (in its expression altho not in its essence) ... but may I suggest you go back to history books - if you ever opened one - and reflect also upon the history of your own country. Then maybe ... you will want to revise your own posts ... unless you don't mind double standards.

[PaulTheSoave]

China has no right, as any other country, to occupy territory and people that is not theirs and control it as a dictatorship state. China as such is actually a country that , like the former Sowjet Union and Yugoslavia, has no right to exist as it was founded and governed by undemocratic, non elected political parties. The region what is now called China, is actually formed by dozens of independent states which the communist party put their stamp on, early 20th century by brutal force.

I understand your point of view Matoski, where you are coming from. Never been strong on democracy there, is it, apart from your absolute incompetent knowledge of history.

[matoski]

Matoski, I wont express here what feelings your post trigger in me, it would be inappropriate (in its expression altho not in its essence) ... but may I suggest you go back to history books - if you ever opened one - and reflect also upon the history of your own country. Then maybe ... you will want to revise your own posts ... unless you don't mind double standards.

Please, teach me, enlight me!

[matoski]

China has no right, as any other country, to occupy territory and people that is not theirs and control it as a dictatorship state. China as such is actually a country that , like the former Sowjet Union and Yugoslavia, has no right to exist as it was founded and governed by undemocratic, non elected political parties. The region what is now called China, is actually formed by dozens of independent states which the communist party put their stamp on, early 20th century by brutal force.

I understand your point of view Matoski, where you are coming from. Never been strong on democracy there, is it, apart from your absolute incompetent knowledge of history.

How much do you know about the democracy in my country. You don't even know how to find my country on a map.