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    I can't do those clever link things but this is well worth a read.

    http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=93251

  • #2
    Thanks for the link, your description certainly is...accurate!

    Do you think anything will come of it?

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    • #3
      Haha, yes that thread is great fun! I'm not sure it will ever happen though, John Schmidt only wants to play 9ball, which would mean Quinten would most probably lose (although he says he's 60-40 favourite ).

      Would be nice to see some combined action like 8ball/9ball/straight pool maybe even snooker, but Hann and Schmidt are far from agreeing to say the least.

      Shame Quinten isn't registered on this forum, he would certainly make things "interesting" (before getting banned, that is).

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      • #4
        Dunno if anythin will come of it. The Schmidt guy has gone from being all aggressive to apologising and so forth so I can't see anything happening.

        Hann is a real class act on the table so I'm not sure if the other guy could win at anything other than one of these strange american games.

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        • #5
          I found that thread a bit disturbing! Hann has taken all kinda grief there but IF he was never convicted (I don't know the story) these guys should be ashamed.

          Before snooker/pool my first love is MMA (mixed martial arts) and those guys talking about fighting in a cage to settle an arguement is a disgrace.
          Alex Higgins "If I knew you were comin I'd have baked a cake, baked a cake, baked a cake"

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          • #6
            Did Hann not batter Mark King in a boxing match because King had bullied him when he was just a kid or something?

            So I'm not so sure the guy would win at fighting either.

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            • #7
              He did beat King in a charity boxing match. Not that sure about the back story. I'm sure lots of people will be trawling youtube for it now lol. Well as I remember it was not very good, but maybe a surprising outcome to most at the time.
              Alex Higgins "If I knew you were comin I'd have baked a cake, baked a cake, baked a cake"

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              • #8
                He did beat King in a charity boxing match. Not that sure about the back story. I'm sure lots of people will be trawling youtube for it now lol. Well as I remember it was not very good, but maybe a surprising outcome to most at the time.
                Here is the report:
                http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/funn...me/3797515.stm

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                • #9
                  I see the news report mentions something about a money match when Hann was 16, perhaps it was something to do with that I read. it was a long time ago.

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                  • #10
                    John Schmidt is one of the great players on this planet, one of about a dozen players to have run over 400 in 14.1, he's made some nice centuries as well on a 12ft snooker table, with little practise. I think if both players practised both pool and snooker for 12 months, John would be the favourite to win both disciplines.

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                    • #11
                      Originally Posted by hegeland View Post
                      John Schmidt is one of the great players on this planet, one of about a dozen players to have run over 400 in 14.1, he's made some nice centuries as well on a 12ft snooker table, with little practise. I think if both players practised both pool and snooker for 12 months, John would be the favourite to win both disciplines.
                      if the snooker part was over any length greater than best of 15 then he wouldnt beat or be favourite to beat Hann IMO, no matter how much effort he put in on the table beforehand

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                      • #12
                        Well it's a matter of opinions as we cannot know. John's made breaks of 140+, 120's-130's etc. with his pool cue, after just a few weeks practise, playing the game for the first time ever. I personally hold John as the better cue sports player.

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                        • #13
                          Originally Posted by hegeland View Post
                          Well it's a matter of opinions as we cannot know. John's made breaks of 140+, 120's-130's etc. with his pool cue, after just a few weeks practise, playing the game for the first time ever. I personally hold John as the better cue sports player.
                          yep it is a matter of opinion. thats what i was posting. i personally hold Hann as a far better cue sports player

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                          • #14
                            I agree with Sem that John Schmidt would not beat Hann at snooker, far from it. It's one thing making a few centuries, but quite another to be in the world's top 16 only a few years ago!

                            Another thing to consider would be the table that these breaks were made on, and the opposition. One person on that thread was comparing John's success rate in making hundreds with the top snooker players in the world today, as if to suggest he is on a par...which he evidently is not, and he admits this himself.

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                            • #15
                              Well it's a matter of opinions as we cannot know. John's made breaks of 140+, 120's-130's etc. with his pool cue, after just a few weeks practise, playing the game for the first time ever. I personally hold John as the better cue sports player.
                              Even John Schmidt said he has no chance against Hann in snooker! He only said, that if he would have played snooker all his life he would have made it as a pro. Making big breaks in practice doesn't mean that much.. I'm no snooker/pool expert, so my opinion might not be the most important, but here is a quote from Darren Appleton, who (although I don't agree with him 100%) knows a bit more about pool than most of us:

                              i know both men pretty well!!

                              johns a class american pool player have watched him at full speed his a match for anyone!

                              q hann underachieved at snooker mainly due to his lazyness but still achieved no 12 in world and beat all the best players and reached a few semi finals etc

                              hann played in world 8ball champs few times english style pool and my opinion one of the best players have seen and played against...

                              hann would have made it into top 8 on the ipt easily my opinion if ipt continued

                              john cant remember watching him play 8ball on ipt but i think straight pool is very similar to 8ball regards to patterns and john plays staight pool great one of the best probably,

                              sorry john i have made 100s of tons at snooker but if i played q hann at snooker race to 50 i would do very well to get 20 frames.. theres thousands of players in uk running round snooker tables knocking tons in and some players who have made over 50 147s breaks but not good enough to make top 64 in world!

                              i know hann played a little 9ball in the past and played strong if he played all the time he would be the best player from snooker at 9ball imho , better than drago ,ronnie,selby,white,davis etc

                              but playing 8ball on big pockets and simonis cloth for me its way too easy imo and dont really need good patterns but need a big break consistant break something that hann not got but john as.. so i think playing 8ball on this equipment would be a fair game, if they played ipt equipment i would favour hann!
                              John Schmidt is easily one of the best 14.1 players these days and he's very good at 9ball as well, but he rarely plays 8ball, so he would have some trouble beating Hann in that game. In snooker Quinten is the clear favourite, just like Schmidt is in 14.1.

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