New 1pc Cue Creator Pro Cue Full Length Ash Shaft,Ebony Butt & Thick Snakewood Veneer

[gazza147]

This Brand New 1pc Cue Creator Pro Cue will also come with a FREE Mini Butt, Telescopic Extension + Accessories.

This Cue is from the Cue Creator Pro Range and has a full length North American Ash.

This Pro Cue is made different to a normal one piece cue. Our Pro range has the shaft going from tip to end of the butt unlike a standard one piece cue.

The standard one piece cues use a 48 inch shaft with butt woods spliced onto them.

The Cue Creator Pro Version uses the highest selected North American Ash in a full length butt to tip. This reduces more flex in the cue as well but triples our costs due to costs in finding shafts good enough to use.

This Cue uses a North American Selected Ash Shaft and an Ebony Butt and uses the Best in Craftsmanship you’ll find Anywhere in the World.

We are the Official Exclusive Stockist of Cue Creator Cues & Products in the UK!!

Approx Cue Specification:
• Tip: 9.4mm
• Length: 57.2"
• Weight: 18oz
• Butt: 29.45
• Balance: 17.1"

* January Special Offer Only £450!...... This is the last one we have left in this design. *

Discounts Available on 1pc Cue Cases or Other Products when you Purchase this Cue.

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[vmax]

Actually it's mass produced one piece cues, that are mostly made on a cnc lathe, that don't have the shaft going all the way to the end of the butt. Hand planed genuine one piece cues are all made using a full length shaft with no cnc used at all, this is how I make my one piece cues, and how Parris make theirs, how Trevor White makes his etc. Yes it's less cost effective, but it's the traditional method, hence the higher price and thus no reason for any cnc made cue to be priced as high.
I would guess that your 'new' pro one pieces are still cnc made but using a 1.5 m shaft instead of a 1.2 m, and rather than attaching an extension piece that the butt is spliced onto, the butt is spliced onto the full length shaft and then back into the cnc lathe again to finish it and I would expect a cnc planer to be used to remove the shaft wood that the splices are glued onto.
I'm not doubting the quality, simply the methods and wording in your marketing to enhance the price.

[Neil Taperell]

That’s a fantastic looking shaft and loving the subtle colour of the snakewood against the ebony . Decent price with all the accessories as well .

[gazza147]

Steve your completely wrong!

You don't know me at all and if you did you wouldn't have wrote the above thats for sure!! Its the last thing I ever do is try and pull the wool over anybodys eyes as all my friends and customers would confirm.

Your Talking Nonsense if you think these Pro Cues are Mass Produced Rubbish and Over Priced as you presume, These are Actually Great Quality Cues at a Great Price and are a Known Brand which Stuart Bingham also uses which he hasn't done too bad as he.

I have been in the Trade and a Collector all my life and also played to high level on Snooker & Pool so know alittle shall I say. I wont get into a arguement here with you or anybody else but why would you comment when you have "NO INTENSION" of buying the Cue but just "TRYING" to put people off???......

Steve myself and others could say the same about the cues your trying to sell and list on eBay etc from around £200-£400 or more which aren't a known Brand/Business or have selected nice shafts etc on them especially the ones I've seen but I don't, As I dont think thats the way business should be done.

People like you could and do damage to "Genuine Sellers & Genuine Businesses" which is totally wrong! As I am a Genuine Business who will help anybody as most know and this is my living not a hobby! People who don't know me may have doubts after reading comments from people like you, Although people or customers who know me or have dealt with me will know differently but that's not the point.

Steve if you don't have anything positive to say please stay clear of my threads as I have done on yours!

I've been a member here approx 12yrs and seen way too much negativity/arguements in the past which needs to be stopped.



Kind Regards Gareth.

[vmax]

Gareth,

The cue pictured looks fabulous and I don't doubt it's quality, but it's not something different. I've had this conversation on the forum with Cue Creator themselves a few years ago and they were open and honest about using cnc lathes to make their cues, nothing wrong with that, and admitted that their one piece cues didn't have a genuine one piece shaft, but obviously now they have come to the conclusion that a lot of buyers have this as a requirement for a one piece snooker cue and have changed their manufacturing process to include and produce genuine one piece cues, and good on them for doing so, but it's not something out of the ordinary and shouldn't be marketed as such and priced as a premium product.

Snooker players on this forum know very well what a genuine one piece cue entails as there have been many threads about who makes what, where it comes from, how it's made etc and this marketing has obviously come from Cue Creator themselves and not you. I'm not knocking you or your business in any way but your post did state 'our pro range' so I apologise for any confusion of their marketing with you, but many won't be taken in by this marketing, they are wrong and can even be considered foolish to reveal this. Players on this forum know this and many won't accept it and Cue Creator and you could easily lose customers for their non 'pro range' one piece cues because of it. Think about what has now been revealed to their possible customers, one piece cues that aren't really one piece cues, that's the message, and bad advertising doesn't sell and your business could suffer.

And I didn't say Cue Creator cues were mass produced rubbish, the word rubbish wasn't used or implied, but they are made by cnc machines, some off the shelf, therefore mass produced in their hundreds? thousands? I don't know, and some to order at fourteen to sixteen weeks. And I said I don't doubt it's quality which I have repeated again in this reply and I aspire to making cues that good by hand, I'm getting there bit by bit and my ebay feedback for my cues is 100% and the most expensive one is 220 pounds and that's down to the marblewood timber used which is quite expensive. I just sold one for 215 pounds inc postage and got 181 pounds from ebay for it so my prices aren't high for genuine hand planed cues, in fact I'm losing money considering the time a cue takes me to make from scratch. I don't just fasten a selected piece of wood to a cnc lathe, set a programme and wait twenty minutes for a shaft to be cut to a specific spec, it takes about a year for me to produce a shaft with all the resting of the timber between planings. Feel free to criticise me or any of my cues, I'm open to constructive criticism which is all I'm doing here,

peace
Steve

[DeanH]

Hi Gareth
Good to see you back

I wont be removing vmax from TSF for his post for what he says, he has his opinion as do you.
To me he is not one that "starts agreements" but has been a positive member for many years and contributes greatly, like you used to do and it would be great to have you contributing again.
I do not read his post as "trying" to do anything other than to give his view on how cues are made and terms used in your ad maybe as misleading.
There is nothing on his post that contravenes the forum rules.
There is nothing on your post that contravenes the forum rules.
I request that both, call it "agree to disagree" and discontinue this path.
Thanks