Eureka, Maple Mannock and Ash Mannock for sale.

[gloveman]

Hi Guys. 3 great cues for sale. Second edition Eureka- stiff ash shaft, jet black ebony butt and four tulipwood splices. 100 % straight, 16 1/2oz and 10mm tip. Just came back from Dave Coutts where it's been for a clean, oil and polish-£350. Ash Mannock- secondary badge with original owners initials. Stiff shaft, 98 % straight ( when held with the flat up plays straight ), 10mm tip and 17oz-£350. Maple Mannock, stiff shaft, 95% straight ( again when held with flat up plays straight ), 10mm tip and 17oz. All three cues in mint original condition.

[gloveman]

Also got a Burroughes & Watts presentation cue with a silver nameplate for sale. The only one i've ever seen.

[kcohentan]

Nice cues gloveman, especially the Mannock in the middle. Is it machine-spliced? Gosh these things really grow on you don't they?! The wood looks so beautifully aged with a warm sheen. I understand these are quite the collectors' item, but does anyone play with them in regular games? Sorry if this sounds daft, but I'm really curious about how these vintage cues play.

[perpetualboredom]

Mannocks seem a bit hit a miss playability wise, I have three, two are way to whippy for regular play but the other, possibly a later cue plays fantastic.

[gloveman]

Almost all the pearwood ones are too wippy and the odd one that might just be stiff enough to play with will probably have a 12mm tip so again no good for playing with. The maple and ash mannocks are like any other old cue- get a thick enough shaft and they're good players.

[kcohentan]

Hmm that's interesting to know. However, isn't it also the case that Pearwood was chosen precisely for its 'anti-grip' quality? It does have a beautiful sheen though! Thanks for sharing that info, as I've never had the chance to try one of these in person.

[Frying Scotsman]

I have a mannock which I got in a club rack in 1986.I thought it played quite nicely but at the time didnt know its worth and for that reason sent it to Bob Akers in Leeds to be made into 2 piece(I know you are all thinking -what a clown) I used it for about 4 years until it had a terrible rattle when you played a shot) It lay in a cupboard for 19 years until an Ebos guy told me to try Robin Cues to get it repaired.I spoke to Robin,sent it to him and had it back in a week ,repaired, with a new tip,ferrule and oil finish-it is truly beautiful.It isnt a pearwood cue but an ash.I am led to believe that this is a later model-does anybody know for sure?

[gloveman]

If you can post a pic i can give you an approx age. What wood is the front splice made from? Snakewood, thuya burr or something else?

[Frying Scotsman]

The splice is thuya burr
The badge still has the writing on it.
When I got it,it had a brass ferrule-not the horn ferrule.
Dont know if that info is any good but I have seen a number of mannocks
over the last 18 months and my one is one of the nicest I have seen
I know a bloke who bought one on ebay but a few of us reckon its a dud trying to be a mannock.
I wonder how many were made and when did they stop producing them?

[gloveman]

Thuya burr front splice- i reckon that dates it between 1920-1950 ish. Snakewood being pre 1920 and roughly from the 50's onward fairly uninspiring wood was used.

[gloveman]

If anyone's interested in any of the three cues make me an offer, you never know someone may end up with a bargain!

[Frying Scotsman]

Thanks for the info Gloveman
Not many players seem to want to play with old cues these days with the exception of some billiards players.I know that Scottish billiards king Dave Sneddon uses a Eureka.Its a lovely old cue with the only difference from an original is that he has a fibre ferrule on it which is a personal preference.
For somebody to totally dominate billiards in Scotland since the late 60s and put the wind up most of the top english players shows that there is still a lot to be said for using old cues

[gloveman]

Yes i'm not surpised that David Sneddon uses an old cue being a billiard player. The old tapers suit the top and side game rather than the stun and screw of snooker. That said if you can find an old cue with a thicker taper it'll be fine for snooker, just think of Davis and Murphy amongst many other top players using old cues.

[gloveman]

Second edition Eureka now sold.

[gloveman]

Ash Mannock now sold- thanks for the interest.