eBay Very rare riley push butt cue / MACE.

[ADR147]

VERY VERY RARE ANTIQUE RILEY CUE / MACE / PUSH BUTT.

THIS IS REALLY A ONE OFF CHANCE TO BUY A VERY VERY RARE RILEY CUE, I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE FROM RILEY. I SPENT SOME CONSIDERABLE TIME DISCUSSING THIS CUE WITH THE CUE EXPERT ANDY HUNTER TODAY AND HE CONFIRMED HE HAD NEVER SEEN ONE EITHER. SO IT MUST BE VERY RARE INDEED! BASICALLY I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST CUES TO HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT TIPPED AT BOTH ENDS. SO ITS A NINTEENTH CENTURY CUE. AND WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE EARLIEST CUES EJ RILEY EVER MADE, THE BUTT IS VERY THICK INDEED ABOUT ONE AND A HALF TIMES THE SIZE OF A MODERN CUE. IT STILL HAS THE LEATHER INSERT ON THE BUTT AREA WHERE THE CUE WAS PROTECTED FROM THE IMPACT OF THE BALLS. IT IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION FOR ITS YEARS. SO IF YOU WANT TO BUY A SERIOUS COLLECTABLE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MAKE ME AN OFFER BEFORE I EBAY IT - I WAS GOING TO DO THAT THIS WEEKEND BUT FOR SOME RESON I CAN'T INLAY THE PHOTOS ANYMORE!

[noel]

That is a cue as graceful and simply beautiful as my Grandmother.

If I could buy it I would.



=o)

Noel

[ADR147]

that is a cue as graceful and simply beautiful as my grandmother.

If i could buy it i would.



=o)

noel

lol - i like the history

[platt]

a great piece of snooker history....

[Freddie Ng]

Might be the few first cue in snooker history..

[ADR147]

Might be the few first cue in snooker history..

well its that period in time where they pushed the ball with what we think of as the butt but yes its for sure when they changed from mace to cue if you like.

[ADR147]

i have now listed this on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...STRK:MESELX:IT

[100-uper]

Now that's a strange thing. When the Billiard Association was formed in 1885 the first thing they did was produce a set of rules for billiards which made striking the cue ball with the butt of the cue a foul stroke. So the cue must have been made before this date, right? Apparently not. E. J. Riley were incorporated on 21st June 1897 and the cue badge clearly says "E J Riley Limited." So the cue was made for playing a shot which had been illegal for at least 12 years! Now there's a puzzle for you.

[ADR147]

hence you can see why we spent a lot of time talking about it! andy's theory is the cue is likely to be about 1875 - which is before riley became a company but when he started making cues - i wonder if the badge was put in later.

[ADR147]

its also strange because its the first time anyone has come across a riley cue with this 'premier' badge - all a bit of a mystery.

[noel]

i wonder if the badge was put in later.

What is the badge made of Andrew?


=o)

Noel

[ADR147]

i can't tell.

[noel]

i can't tell.

I can't tell from photo either... at that time wouldn't it be whalebone or ivory or something?
Is the lettering on badge stamped on or etched in?

Curiouser and curiouser...


=o|

Noel

[100-uper]

I must say that I can be added to the list of people who have never heard of the Premier cue.

But I can still recall club players in the 1970's playing the occasional shot with the butt of the cue rather than dig out the long tackle from the side of the table. Around 1900 there would have been plenty of players who were brought up with the old rules. Perhaps there was still a demand at this time for a cue made in the "traditional style?"

Just speculation of course. Whether it's 1880 or 1900, not that much difference. Might actually be more desirable if the badge and the cue belong together.

[ADR147]

I must say that I can be added to the list of people who have never heard of the Premier cue.

But I can still recall club players in the 1970's playing the occasional shot with the butt of the cue rather than dig out the long tackle from the side of the table. Around 1900 there would have been plenty of players who were brought up with the old rules. Perhaps there was still a demand at this time for a cue made in the "traditional style?"

Just speculation of course. Whether it's 1880 or 1900, not that much difference. Might actually be more desirable if the badge and the cue belong together.

well its a bit early to be in my field but i think the badge and the cue are together and always have been, just on the quality of the fitting as for what its made of its very hard to tell but its after the industrial revolution so it could be anything! all i can say is its a new one to me and there is a lot of interest in it - i wish i could find graham tilleys contact details he is the riley collector maybe he has come across one.