John Parris Ultimate Rounded Butt

[thienyo12]

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[thienyo12]

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I know of a few un-numbered JP Ultimates that are still going strong. Also, I know of someone who sent their Ultimate to JP to be lengthened and when he got it back it had a numbered plate.

I think the numbering of Ultimates began in late 1996 - as at this time some customers received un-numbered Ultimates - while a few weeks later my Ultimate which I still use, came down with a number.



A possible reason for the badge looking different and translucent - is because it is a round butt - and therefore the badge has to be set deeper into the wood.

[Deepscrew]

Nice one on the pics, OP.

Where did you buy it from?

[thienyo12]

Nice one on the pics, OP.

Where did you buy it from?

Purchased this cue from the UK, from a lad named Robert.

[dickyang147]

pm- dickyang147@hotmail.com

[ADR147]

instict tells me the cue is right actually from the photos but i am sure john will be happy to confirm.

[arbitrage]

Ok. First of all I would like to say Thanks to the ones who are interested in the cue. This thread was originally a Selling thread, but obviously has turned into fake/real thread, fine.

I can assure you all that this cue is legitimate. Yea Blah all you want, I look forward for JP to comment on this cue. Feel free to take these images and send them to him, this is all part of testing before purchasing right?

To be honest, I cannot tell you straight out how old this cue is, but my opinion I would estimate this cue at least 10years old+

Below I attach some new pictures I captured with my phone closeup, and another side by side with my brother's 1 Year old Mastercraft.
There you can notice the cue's ash is distinctively darker. This shows that you cannot judge this cue with another that is fairly new.

I assure you that the badge is real. You can run your hand down the Ebony over the badge and it as flush as running your hand down a woman's backside.

The cue when held feels smooth, when down you a shot and you're feathering the cue, the weight distributed in a way that on a shot the shaft feels stiff but the butt isn't heavy. This is a beautiful cue and to be honest with you is really ****es me off people making comments on this antique.

I also attached some snaps of the slicings, cue tip, various angles.
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Thien.

thien, only one poster is claiming it is a fake and this is the guy who presumes he can teach ronnie o'sullivan a thing or two about improving his performance. there are plenty of these yobs around, who think they know it all and can't wait to open their loud mouths to broadcast their ignorance, so i wouldn't get worked up about it. btw. it's a lovely cue you have there.

[deant1982]

thien, only one poster is claiming it is a fake and this is the guy who presumes he can teach ronnie o'sullivan a thing or two about improving his performance.

I can only assume you are talking about me, so I'll bite -

I never stated this cue is fake. I said I would be extremely skeptical about buying it, as I have never seen a JP ultimate without a number (and I have seen a few, I think the lowest number was about two hundred and something..) I asked andrew if he had any fake badges I can stick on an old cue to turn a good profit. If the cue is genuine, fair enough, not a problem, good luck with the sale. I think it might represent an issue for selling on, as I implied, due to other people like me who haven't known of an ultimate not having a number.
If JP comes on and says its is genuine, fair enough. I just know I wouldn't want to think of buying it until he has confirmed it authenticity, and I certainly wouldn't offer £600 for it.

As for the Ronnie part, I seriously suggest you read the thread again pal.

(Just to make you look a bit more silly) Here it is - http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...949#post599949

Please point out where I try to say I could teach Ronnie anything.....

there are plenty of these yobs around, who think they know it all and can't wait to open their loud mouths to broadcast their ignorance, so i wouldn't get worked up about it.

In the words of Bill in Kill Bill - "Kiddo, you ain't kiddin!"............... The words pot, kettle, and black spring to mind.

btw. it's a lovely cue you have there.

Finally, we agree. It is a very nice cue. If it is a genuine JP Ultimate, even better for you, but end of the day JP is just a name. A cue doesn't have to be made by JP, MW, TW etc in order for it to be a good cue. If it does the job its supposed to do and the user likes how it does said job, that is all you need!

I'm bored of you now.

[thienyo12]

First off I'd like to thank the people who have interests in the cue.

It's in every bodies right to question the cue to all of their extent, especially if your going to pay quiet abit of money for it.
Hence why I took the extra photos to justify people's points and needs.

I had a PM from a person who said to me that some people where only saying that it was nongenuine so that they could press the price, and I can assure you if they offered me such a price on this cue i would refuse to sell and keep it, as it's a god damn good playing cue if it is fake.

Once again Thank you all for your contribution, and let the higher bidder own the title of this antique.

Thien.

[deant1982]

First off I'd like to thank the people who have interests in the cue.

It's in every bodies right to question the cue to all of their extent, especially if your going to pay quiet abit of money for it.
Hence why I took the extra photos to justify people's points and needs.

Correct. Good on you for taking the extra pictures to set peoples mind at ease.

I had a PM from a person who said to me that some people where only saying that it was nongenuine so that they could press the price, and I can assure you if they offered me such a price on this cue i would refuse to sell and keep it, as it's a god damn good playing cue if it is fake.

People will do that. I do not wish to buy it, nor have I requested a price for it. If the cue is genuine, I hope you get a good and fair price for it. My thoughts were if it wasn't, I wouldn't like to see anybody pay too much for the cue. There is no slight intended at you, as for all anybody knows, you could have been told it was genuine and are selling it as so. No offence or disrespect was intended towards you. Also, fair play for not letting it go for a pittance. It looks like a good cue, and if it plays well, as I said, if it is fake, or if it real, it doesn't matter!

Once again Thank you all for your contribution, and let the higher bidder own the title of this antique.

Thien.

And good luck with the sale. I hope you get what you are looking for price wise.

[arbitrage]

such a lengthy reply when i didn't even mention which poster. you associate yourself with the labels "yob", "loudmouth" and "ignorance" for some reason or other?

in that case, i'll refer you to more internet postings with such descriptors if i come across them.

I can only assume you are talking about me, so I'll bite -

I never stated this cue is fake. I said I would be extremely skeptical about buying it, as I have never seen a JP ultimate without a number (and I have seen a few, I think the lowest number was about two hundred and something..) I asked andrew if he had any fake badges I can stick on an old cue to turn a good profit. If the cue is genuine, fair enough, not a problem, good luck with the sale. I think it might represent an issue for selling on, as I implied, due to other people like me who haven't known of an ultimate not having a number.
If JP comes on and says its is genuine, fair enough. I just know I wouldn't want to think of buying it until he has confirmed it authenticity, and I certainly wouldn't offer £600 for it.

As for the Ronnie part, I seriously suggest you read the thread again pal.

(Just to make you look a bit more silly) Here it is - http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...949#post599949

Please point out where I try to say I could teach Ronnie anything.....



In the words of Bill in Kill Bill - "Kiddo, you ain't kiddin!"............... The words pot, kettle, and black spring to mind.



Finally, we agree. It is a very nice cue. If it is a genuine JP Ultimate, even better for you, but end of the day JP is just a name. A cue doesn't have to be made by JP, MW, TW etc in order for it to be a good cue. If it does the job its supposed to do and the user likes how it does said job, that is all you need!

I'm bored of you now.

[DWOT]

is anybody buying this cue or what or is it turning into yet another argumentative thread???? FFS get a grip.

[deant1982]

such a lengthy reply when i didn't even mention which poster. you associate yourself with the labels "yob", "loudmouth" and "ignorance" for some reason or other?

Not really, I'm able to use logic and deductability/process of elimination to work out who you were referring to, since I am the one who has commented on both (at a quick glance, the only one who has, but again, I could be wrong). Not to mention, I've had enough fools call me names and insult me in the past to know when an insult or barb is aimed at me, to which I'll defend my corner.

in that case, i'll refer you to more internet postings with such descriptors if i come across them.

If I could be bothered to argue, I'd say please do, but to save time, effort, energy, and general will to live of all concerned, don't bother pal. I am not interested, and I dare say not too many other people will be either.

Lets just leave it at that, eh?