*** Uncle Vit - Selling 4-Arrow Shaft ***

[ADR147]

your point?

[cally]

Didn't think it's difficult to understand

What cue was you expecting it to be, was you expecting a 'c' branded cue?..

[ADR147]

Didn't think it's difficult to understand

What cue was you expecting it to be, was you expecting a 'c' branded cue?..

i was expecting the cue described on the first page.

[ADR147]

Didn't think it's difficult to understand

What cue was you expecting it to be, was you expecting a 'c' branded cue?..

a Grade A custom cue from Workshop :
12 splices in Ebony and Maple Woods. 2 pieces, 57 inches total length, Cue Tip 9.5mm., Balance @ 43.5cms. (a little forward balance), Total weight 17.5oz. Ash comes with 4 nice arrows (workshop said "4 arrows shaft is hard to find). Back has no arrow. Comes with butt joint.

[cally]

ok, fair enough....

I was just thinking you put dibs in for this to have a looksy after reading the reviews of the 'c' brand, and you wanted to look at what the fuss was about, and i thought you may have been expecting a 'c' brand has that is what is normally reviewed well.
And like i said, i think uv sources from different workshops and this may be the lesser one. i dunno. seems strange taht's all...

Either way, not good....

[eaoin11]

This one seems to have same joint and butt shape as the 3/4 'c' brand I bought last year. ADR, the lacquered butt has been mentioned a few times on TSF, guess you missed that?

[eaoin11]

Yes I'm aware that Phoenix, mastercue, O'min etc are available for that kind of money but you suggested that the majority of cues in the UK were made over in the far east and rebadged which again isn't true, certainly not those over £175 which I said. Phoenix, Mastercue, O'min and possibly one or two others are not rebadged so therefore they don't count. I'm fully aware that you can get quality cues over there but you pay a premium price for them.

I'll just reiterate what I said about GBL who is an English based cuesports retailer, they aren't based in Thailand or do business out there so they have cues manufactured for them by some other cue maker who is then putting on a GBL badge as though they are solely made for them. I'd bet that they also make cues under some other name too but Stu is not going to divulge that information as he is obvioulsy making a tidy profit on them. Yes Stu isn't getting them and putting his own badge on but that still doesn't mean they aren't manufactured by someone else.


The reason you say you won't name names is pure and simply because there aren't any UK based cue makers who sell cues made for them by someone else, not in the £175+ price bracket which was my original post. I'm not denying that some have cues made but they aren't priced at that and are aimed at the lower end of the market.

What's the logic behind this? If UK makers are getting un badged cues from Asia it's because those blanks have good shafts with nice grain which are much cheaper to source in bulk in Asia than in the UK. It makes a lot of sense to do this for higher end cues with a large profit margin.

Have you seen posts from JP1 and TW on this topic?

[Bigmeek]

i was expecting the cue described on the first page.

ADR147 The cue on the first page doesn't look like any of the other C-brand cues that Unclevit has sold over the last few years. As I've said in my previous post I think there's something a bit dodgy going on here. I'd really like Unclevit himself to come on to The Forum personally and clarify things. The cue you've bought doesn't have any of the really fancy splicing associated with C-brand cues and the dodgy badge is just a joke. Ask for your money back and see what the response is!
PS. And the asking price of USD245 is about 50% more than I paid.

[eaoin11]

ADR147 The cue on the first page doesn't look like any of the other C-brand cues that Unclevit has sold over the last few years. As I've said in my previous post I think there's something a bit dodgy going on here. I'd really like Unclevit himself to come on to The Forum personally and clarify things. The cue you've bought doesn't have any of the really fancy splicing associated with C-brand cues and the dodgy badge is just a joke. Ask for your money back and see what the response is!
PS. And the asking price of USD245 is about 50% more than I paid.

Actually this is plain wrong, he has sold the same design or similar on a number of occasions. Mine was just 'ebony', and not long after another was sold similar to ADR's but with red splices. Pretty sure I've seen the very same as Andrew's here as well.

[Raldon]

yes but i am loathe to review it.

...nothing more to add

[n.er]

I really did'nt want to reply to this threat but for the sake of future costumers who are planning to order cues from Unclevit my advice would be " BE VERY CAREFULL ". Last year i ordered a custom made cue from Unclevit, the production of the cue took approximatelly 6-7 months instead of the 6-8 weeks quoted by him. The cue looked OK except for the sticky material that was applied to the butt, i used the cue for a couple hours and all of a sudden i noticed a small crack in one the splicings, but the cracks did'nt just stop there, eventually they appeared all over the butt. When i emailed him about the problem he asked me to send the cue back to him at my expense.The cheapest parcel service from Australia to Thailand was going to cost me approximatelly 80-90 AU dollars, eventually we came to a compromise where by i would send him a bit more money and he inturn would make me a new cue. But again i was dissappointed with the new cue, the shaft was badly damaged where by it had about 6-7 deep dents " the dents looked like clamp marks of the lathe" and also they had installed the wrong 3/4 vacuum joints in the cue. I had gone to a lot of trouble finding the threaded joints from UK (KLIK)and having them sent to Unclevit in Thailand for my new cue.Unclevit was very appologetic but how does this help me ?? Is it my fault that they stuffed up not once but twice ?? As a freindly warning to all forum members BE CAREFULL !!

[eaoin11]

This seems a bit late buddy... Unlcevit has sold cues for a few years and the complaint from Chris is the first anyone heard of problems with them.

[BoBnoGG!n]

i agree with eaoin11.. ive ordered close to a dozen cues and not had 1 problem. all cues turned up very good. i find in australias climate, cues of all different brands get pretty sticky, and the finish he uses on his cues are up to the individual cue maker. for that price, u really cant complain. as for cracks, well, australias climate is pretty different from most parts of the world. ive seen cues of all different makes develop small cracks in the ebony after arriving here brand new. u cant blame a cue maker for that.

[Deepscrew]

buying anything from the other side of the world has its risks clearly, and this cue has been sent out in poor condition no doubts. hopefully it gets sorted.

I think everyone knows my opinions on my cue so I won't go on about it anymore, perhaps a bit of luck is needed when ordering from them. poor if so.

the recent price rises also seem a pill that's is hard to swollow.

last thing actually, my cue was proported to be on from unclevits personal collection that he didn't get on with, so no wonder is faultless.

as it stands I wouldn't order a custom cue from them, but if one was posted that took my fancy I would buy again at the right price. that being circa <£150 posted.

[eaoin11]

buying anything from the other side of the world has its risks clearly, and this cue has been sent out in poor condition no doubts. hopefully it gets sorted.

I think everyone knows my opinions on my cue so I won't go on about it anymore, perhaps a bit of luck is needed when ordering from them. poor if so.

the recent price rises also seem a pill that's is hard to swollow.

last thing actually, my cue was proported to be on from unclevits personal collection that he didn't get on with, so no wonder is faultless.

as it stands I wouldn't order a custom cue from them, but if one was posted that took my fancy I would buy again at the right price. that being circa <£150 posted.

Well actually the only thing about ADR's cue that represents poor condition is the 'rough brass work'. The lacquered butt is how they are normally made, not a fault. The tip is nothing for the majority of TSF members, most people will put their preferred tip on anyway. The badge is not 'poor condition' (just fraud lol), and being off spec is not poor condition either. ADR said that the shaft and butt are fine.