Jason Owen Cue 042 for sale

[itx]

Jason, have you got any ash cues likely to be going in the sin bin or any ash cues that might be available please, looking for something with a pool spec, say 8mm tip if possible.

[JasonOwen]

Jason, have you got any ash cues likely to be going in the sin bin or any ash cues that might be available please, looking for something with a pool spec, say 8mm tip if possible.

I havent anything at the moment but who knows, this hot weather isnt helping. Wood doesnt seem to like sudden changes and im learning the hard way exactly why I need some sort of controlled environment wood store.

[JasonOwen]

I thought due to the 'toffee' mark it was being sold as one, apologies if not. Suppose thats why its badged and incs a mini!

I didnt see the toffee mark as a reason to bin the cue, its doesnt affect the cue at all and its very hard to find clean maple. Just mentioned it really so whoever buys it is in the picture. Honesty and all that.

Im told the minimum I should be charging is £300 for a plain spliced cue and then £60 per set of extra splices, so this cue should be £420.
Im not charging that, the cue is excellent, so think at £300 with a mini butt is a decent price to charge, well must be because I could have sold it 4 times over.

You have to think that there is probably 30 hrs work in this cue, take off £100 of materials, leaves me on about £6.66 an hour, just over minimum wage.

[gazza147]

Jason please dont take this the wrong way m8 but your asking £300 for a Cue which has a default? And somebody telling you to charge £300 for Plain Ebony Butt is crackers really as you Can Pick up a Trevor White Plain Ebony/John Parris for around £300-£350 in Brand New Mint Condition and Not being rude or anything Trevor White Cues are very sort after where as alot of People have Never heard of Jason Owen as you just starting off.

Personally your Cues look great but its Not all about the Looks if your wanting to Sell them on if you cannot Play or doesnt suit then you must get it at Right Price and Made by somebody like Trevor or John Parris, Mike Wooldridge, Tony Glover etc to get most of your money back.

Gaz.

[JasonOwen]

Jason please dont take this the wrong way m8 but your asking £300 for a Cue which has a default? And somebody telling you to charge £300 for Plain Ebony Butt is crackers really as you Can Pick up a Trevor White Plain Ebony/John Parris for around £300-£350 in Brand New Mint Condition and Not being rude or anything Trevor White Cues are very sort after where as alot of People have Never heard of Jason Owen as you just starting off.

Personally your Cues look great but its Not all about the Looks if your wanting to Sell them on if you cannot Play or doesnt suit then you must get it at Right Price and Made by somebody like Trevor or John Parris, Mike Wooldridge, Tony Glover etc to get most of your money back.

Gaz.

Gaz,
I understand what your saying and appreciate all feedback, good or bad.
Firstly please understand I do not in any way think my quality and consistency is anywhere near the cue makers you mention, im still learning the trade and will be for many years yet.

Pricing is a real head ache for me at the mo, I just dont know where to go with it.
Here are the facts, have a read and let me know what you would do if you were me....

1. Two of my cues have now been on ebay in the last month. Both cues were offered for sale by me at £230. One sold for £340 and one sold for £310. Thats a fair mark up on my selling price.
I would bet a healthy amount that cue 042 would have sold for more than £300 had I put it on ebay. (I probably should have just put it on ebay!!)

2. I have turned down 37 orders in the last month, purely because I do not want more work than I can handle.

3. 4 of the above 37 have come back to me and offered to pay £300+ for a cue as long as I take their order.

4. My web site is getting 2-300 hits a day, facebook gets around 5 friend requests a day and has over 2000 followers now.

5. Ive spent over £8000 in the last 12 months on machines, tools and materials.


So the resale/used value seems to be holding so its safe to say that people who have brought a Jason Owen cue will at minimum get their money back.
The demand is far out weighing the supply, I simply cannot make cues quick enough.
A standard manufacturing business where demand out strips supply would put their prices up to a point where the demand/supply balances.

So Gaz, how would you price the cues if you were me?
Think your turning orders down, your seeing your cues on ebay making £100 more then your selling them for, your spending out a lot of money each month but at £200 a cue your not actually making a penny.

[mrbluejay]

Gaz,
I understand what your saying and appreciate all feedback, good or bad.
Firstly please understand I do not in any way think my quality and consistency is anywhere near the cue makers you mention, im still learning the trade and will be for many years yet.

Pricing is a real head ache for me at the mo, I just dont know where to go with it.
Here are the facts, have a read and let me know what you would do if you were me....

1. Two of my cues have now been on ebay in the last month. Both cues were offered for sale by me at £230. One sold for £340 and one sold for £310. Thats a fair mark up on my selling price.
I would bet a healthy amount that cue 042 would have sold for more than £300 had I put it on ebay. (I probably should have just put it on ebay!!)

2. I have turned down 37 orders in the last month, purely because I do not want more work than I can handle.

3. 4 of the above 37 have come back to me and offered to pay £300+ for a cue as long as I take their order.

4. My web site is getting 2-300 hits a day, facebook gets around 5 friend requests a day and has over 2000 followers now.

5. Ive spent over £8000 in the last 12 months on machines, tools and materials.


So the resale/used value seems to be holding so its safe to say that people who have brought a Jason Owen cue will at minimum get their money back.
The demand is far out weighing the supply, I simply cannot make cues quick enough.
A standard manufacturing business where demand out strips supply would put their prices up to a point where the demand/supply balances.

So Gaz, how would you price the cues if you were me?
Think your turning orders down, your seeing your cues on ebay making £100 more then your selling them for, your spending out a lot of money each month but at £200 a cue your not actually making a penny.

Not sure where Gaz is coming from, but (No offence intended Gaz) his opinion is just that - an opinion and does not matter.

The market will dictate whether the prices offer value for money, if they sell then clearly someone thinks they represent value. It is a simple case of supply and demand. The market always has a way of regulating price.

[Deepscrew]

Supply and demand, ebay them all Jason!

[stejohn]

why would you sell a cue for £200 if you could sell it just as easily for £300 upwards, esp when you cant make them as fast and easily as you can sell them? Fair play i say, good luck to you Jason!

[gazza147]

Guys I think you got the Wrong end of the stick here!

I am not suggesting Jason selling them for £50-£200 etc all I was saying my Opinion and Opinion of Many Others I know would be why Pay £300-£400 for a Jason Owen Cue who does make a Nice Looking Cue but as we all know isnt Broken Thru yet as we say when you could Buy a Trevor White or John Parris or Wooldridge etc who are the Top Names in Cue making at Present thats all I was saying.

Jason Good Luck with your Sales m8 but £300 for a Defect Cue in My Eyes way too Expensive sorry but thats my Opinion and many others I know also.

Gaz.

[Deepscrew]

But he sold it 4 times over. So i cant be too much in reality.

[JasonOwen]

I wouldn't class this cue as a defect cue. The toffee mark on the shaft is not very big and is quite usual on maple shafts. A totally clean maple shaft is as hard to find as a perfect grain / arrow ash shaft.
I wouldn't have mentioned it normally.

Also I don't think you would get a triple spliced cue from
Mike, Trev or Glover for much less than £550, which would make this almost half the price.

[cally]

Maples will nearly always have these 'toffee' marks, some tiny some larger but nigh on all of it will have marks on somewhere, very hard indeed to find very clean maple like jason said.....

It's not a defective cue like some have said...

e2a.. when i asked trev back a while ago for a price to make me a cue similar to that it was over 400 quid. under 500 but can't remeber exact price now.

[mrbluejay]

Guys I think you got the Wrong end of the stick here!

I am not suggesting Jason selling them for £50-£200 etc all I was saying my Opinion and Opinion of Many Others I know would be why Pay £300-£400 for a Jason Owen Cue who does make a Nice Looking Cue but as we all know isnt Broken Thru yet as we say when you could Buy a Trevor White or John Parris or Wooldridge etc who are the Top Names in Cue making at Present thats all I was saying.

Jason Good Luck with your Sales m8 but £300 for a Defect Cue in My Eyes way too Expensive sorry but thats my Opinion and many others I know also.

Gaz.

I don't think people are getting the wrong end Gaz. It is just your opinion is not backed up by the facts, if the cues struggled to sell, then yes they would be too expensive, given how quickly they have sold though, the price is about right.

Expensive is a comparative term.

[Wayne G]

Jason,

You're either a hobbyist(who makes cues for fun) or a businessman - your choice.

[JasonOwen]

Jason,

You're either a hobbyist(who makes cues for fun) or a businessman - your choice.

Ultimately I want to build cues as a living so I'd have to be a businessman.
Plus I couldn't afford to make cues as a hobby, it's such an expensive past time.