Will hunt

[Wayne G]

There is another perspective to this in my view.

Although it's his right to deal with his business however he sees fit, it's also the right of potential buyers to ask questions of the product, such as "was it actually made here in the UK or not?" Any attempt to hide, withold or even lie about the truth of what the origins of such cues are is not on. Whether the cues being sold are totally excellent or not is somewhat irrelevant if the question is simply one of........... "ARE THEY MADE IN THE UK OR NOT.?"

My view on the whole thing is that it's about time that ALL those who use imported cues, no matter to what extent, should say so openly, and should CERTAINLY NOT shy away from answering questions on such matters. If more and more are seen to be doing this, and keeping quiet on it simply to cash in on any reputation they have, then it tarnishes other UK makers who have no such involvement in those practises.

I won't be holding my breath on anyone coming forward though.

Totally agree. This should also apply to so called "reputable" cue makers who market various different brands of cues.

[ADR147]

There is another perspective to this in my view.

Although it's his right to deal with his business however he sees fit, it's also the right of potential buyers to ask questions of the product, such as "was it actually made here in the UK or not?" Any attempt to hide, withold or even lie about the truth of what the origins of such cues are is not on. Whether the cues being sold are totally excellent or not is somewhat irrelevant if the question is simply one of........... "ARE THEY MADE IN THE UK OR NOT.?"

My view on the whole thing is that it's about time that ALL those who use imported cues, no matter to what extent, should say so openly, and should CERTAINLY NOT shy away from answering questions on such matters. If more and more are seen to be doing this, and keeping quiet on it simply to cash in on any reputation they have, then it tarnishes other UK makers who have no such involvement in those practises.

I won't be holding my breath on anyone coming forward though.

the trouble is that to some extent all cues are imported it's just a question of what building each individual does. not many are building them from the ash boards imho.

[Neil Taperell]

getting use to it now its not gb no more a bit old to change ps spent more time in scotland than wales lol ,neil have alook at the doner cue ime messing with on post pics of cues

Just seen it Jim . Looks very intricate . And alot of hardwork

[hotpot]

I dont know exactly how many established uk cue makers visit this forum but there must be a good few . I would have thought a number of them may have browsed through this thread yet there dont seem many commentating .
If i were a uk maker and i knew my product was entirely made by myself then i would be the first to come on here and say so .
I dont blame Trev for coming out as strong and clear as he does .

[Neil Taperell]

I dont know exactly how many established uk cue makers visit this forum but there must be a good few . I would have thought a number of them may have browsed through this thread yet there dont seem many commentating .
If i were a uk maker and i knew my product was entirely made by myself then i would be the first to come on here and say so .
I dont blame Trev for coming out as strong and clear as he does .

What are you implying Neil ????? ............lol .....couldn't resist that one !


I agree . For me the response from Trevor is all about being passionate about what you do and what your perception of wrong and right is . It must be very frustrating for him [ and others ] who put a huge amount of time and effort in to produce what they do...................in the right way .

[eaoin11]

What are you implying Neil ????? ............lol .....couldn't resist that one !


I agree . For me the response from Trevor is all about being passionate about what you do and what your perception of wrong and right is . It must be very frustrating for him [ and others ] who put a huge amount of time and effort in to produce what they do...................in the right way .

One cuemaker is very conspicuous by his silence on this topic...

I agree that Trevor deserves the chance to be successful without having to import cues.

But what can we do about the fakers? Start a 'cue leaks' thread? I don't want to live in Ecuador so it can't be me... lol

[SteveDay]

The question of work done on handmade cues seems to be a recurring thing on these forums, it was actually one of the reasons i joined in the first place, wanting to find out more info before committing myself to buying a new one. I was initially led to believe that a UK handmade cue was fully handmade but now it seems that most people disagree on what constitutes the definition of handmade.

Some cue makers provide photographs of the cue being made, which seems the best option for myself. If I was buying a cue that was imported and then finished off, as long as I was happy with the finished cue, I wouldn't be too bothered but only if I had known. I certainly wouldn't pay extra money towards one with the assumption that more work has gone into it than truly has. For the most part it's the craftsmanship that we pay for, not only the quality but the quantity. If I buy something based on reputation than the reputation should be earned. If someone is really only buying a cue in and then finishing it off, adding their badge, then I shouldn't be paying them the same money as someone that's actually making it. That's just exploiting what the consumer doesn't know.

I have known some people that have chosen particular wood to be used, favouring the grain, etc, and have been kept up to date with its manufacture via photographs. It may seem picky to some people but if they select a particular piece of wood, thinking they are getting something that they have had more of a choice in that just selecting one off a rack, then it should be that selection of wood that adorns the finished cue. It's not hard to take a few photos of work underway. Considering that it's obviously an issue among people it would be in their interests to provide such a service to customers, so i would stick to those that do. When i get around to buying my next cue I will go only with those makers that provide info so that i know i am getting what i pay for. It's not that i doubt their initial word but it does sound (from these forums anyway) that there are people that are basically selling a service they don't provide.

[Izzyfcuk]

Lock this thread! unless u have one available for me : )