Red and Black Phoenix tips

[wideride96]

Anyone know the difference 'cept the obvious lol

[Catch 22]

Yeah . ... The red are slightly softer

I've used the black medium Phoenix for a year or so and recently put on a red Phoenix to give it a try .

TBH I really like the red and will stick with it . Like I say it's almost the exact same but VERY slightly softer .

I LOVE EM

[karlos fandango]

I've used the black mediums for around 3 years now..can't fault them so won't be changing any time soon..I reckon if the reds are a tad softer they will appeal to a lot of players as the black are always referred to as being too hard

[Ramon]

I've used the black mediums for around 3 years now..can't fault them so won't be changing any time soon..I reckon if the reds are a tad softer they will appeal to a lot of players as the black are always referred to as being too hard

Good value tips indeed. Great response .
imo, better than kamui.

[Shockerz]

Good value tips indeed. Great response .
imo, better than kamui.

Do you think it's harder or softer than a Talisman soft?

[Ramon]

Do you think it's harder or softer than a Talisman soft?

Never treid Talisman soft.
I have played with Talisman Medium. Phoenix is alot softer comperd to them, imo. much better CB response too.

[Shockerz]

Never treid Talisman soft.
I have played with Talisman Medium. Phoenix is alot softer comperd to them, imo. much better CB response too.

It's difficult to measure tips as I guess it does come down to personal opinion; I did see a compression chart once for tips, I ought to find it and have another read!

Not sure what else was on it e.g. hardness.

[karlos fandango]

Definitely a little harder than a Tally soft..but I found the talismans fell apart or sounded like they weren't glued properly..and yes Ramon I also find them better than the Kamuis

[Ramon]

It's difficult to measure tips as I guess it does come down to personal opinion; I did see a compression chart once for tips, I ought to find it and have another read!

Not sure what else was on it e.g. hardness.

agreed.
Most snooker players would rather have press tip, though.
would be fair to say , they're softer ( in generaal ).

[Ramon]

Definitely a little harder than a Tally soft..but I found the talismans fell apart or sounded like they weren't glued properly..and yes Ramon I also find them better than the Kamuis

same thing happened to me with talisman M .

[Shockerz]

agreed.
Most snooker players would rather have press tip, though.
would be fair to say , they're softer ( in generaal ).

Yeah I like the softer part but when I used a pressed tip, in general, I was always fiddling with it and continually doing stuff to keep it where I wanted it, maybe it was just me!

[karlos fandango]

Yeah I like the softer part but when I used a pressed tip, in general, I was always fiddling with it and continually doing stuff to keep it where I wanted it, maybe it was just me!

After playing with a mates cue who uses elks..I couldn't believe the inconsistency of a softer tip..it's a lottery as to if your going to get any action on the cue ball from one shot to the next

[Ramon]

Yeah I like the softer part but when I used a pressed tip, in general, I was always fiddling with it and continually doing stuff to keep it where I wanted it, maybe it was just me!

Not just you.

that's the trouble you get with pressed tips. They require abit more maintenance.

[Shockerz]

After playing with a mates cue who uses elks..I couldn't believe the inconsistency of a softer tip..it's a lottery as to if your going to get any action on the cue ball from one shot to the next

That seems to be the re-occurring theme when discussing soft pressed tips. I don't feel there's the same inconsistency when they are pressed but then that's where you start to lose feel.

[wideride96]

Thanks all. Gonna try the red, had a black and it delaminated on a medium shot. Was told " yeah they do that lam' tips"