What Tip Do You Use?

[Nemesis]

Well

Ive tried the Talisman today and i can only say that i can understand why Ronnie bit his one off !!!

Its sooooo hard that it feels like a piece of wood stuck on the end of the cue , and after a few shots struggles to hold chalk at all !!

Very disappointed to be honest , im gonna try on of Mikes tips now i think

[ADR147]

the mediums are too hard in my opinion - only the soft is good - ronnie uses the hard one - god knows how.

[The Doctor]

Im going to try the talisman's again, how do people get them to hold the chalk, after a few frames the tip seems to loose the chalk, even chalking after every shot i still have to sand or roughen up the top to get chalk to hold.

Whereas if you look at the talisman on ronnie's cue it is covered in chalk.....

What you need to do craig is first chalk the cue, then use a file or tip tool and press the chalk into the tip to get some penetration, sanding down the layers will not help. just try what i said and repeat a few times.
would like to try the tips you are talking about.

[jb134]

Hi all, I have read through this with interest. I have always played with BDs or Elks, I never found it made much difference because once they are played in they perform in a very similar way.

I had old (5 - 10yrs) boxes of each which recently ran out. I have since bought a box of each and quite frankly, they are rubbish. In the last two weeks I have had 7 elks on my snooker cue and 5 on my pool cue and I can virtually tell they are rubbish as I am putting them on.

The blue diamonds I put in the bin as one after the other they frayed, sprung and went like sponges. I have tipped literally hundreds of cues over the years and until I got these new tips, never had any problems.

Has anyone else had similar experiences?

I have today been given two Mike Wooldridge tips to try and they will be going on tonight and I'll have a hit asap.

Any advice from anyone would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

[Strickimicki]

OK, Stop!

I've read this twice now the whole lot!

I'm bolo--ed if I can work which tip is really good and which is crappy.

Is there a general view to which tip is the bee’s knees or not?

I've just looked up the price form the talisman range! For that price the breaks have got to happen on their own. I should only have to stand up to collect the prize money.

I've been using Blue diamonds or Elk for the last 20 years. I can not imagine that the tip can make such a big difference.

Can anybody here really say that since they started playing with another tip make, that there average break went up by twenty or more?

I'd really like some Info on this!

Thanks

Brian.

[trevs1]

I have just purchased and fitted a Medium Talisman .
I was amazed how easy they are to shape and soon got the tip how i wanted it ..... it didnt fluff up like an elkmaster !

Also ,when i played my first few shots with the Talisman , i was shocked how it already felt bedded in unlike the spongy feel of a new Elk .

The only thing that concerns me is the chalk issue which people have said about , already mine doesnt seem to take chalk like an Elk . Will this tip enable big screw shots even tho it is already hard ?

Only time will tell if Talismans are the way to go , ive used Elks for 20 years but i am constantly changing tips due to wear


Oh ........ and £5 for an effing tip ????? they better be good !!!!!!!!

The reason the Elk you've tried have 'fluffed up' is because you have not chosen a decent one to begin with. If a good Elkmaster is selected and used, they will oferr every buit of performance that ANY other tip will...FACT.

The tip on a cue is not the be all and end all. Yes it is important, but when so many players have varying preferences for sort firm..ish or rock bloody hard, how can anyone say exactly what contitutes the perfect tip???

They can't, simple as that.

The truth of the tip debate is that if you really are that agravated at having to change the tip now and then when it requires replacing, then use one of the stupidly hard, difficult to hold chalk type tips that are available.
It might feel like a pebble on the end of your cue, but hey, you won't have to replace it after three months of use.

If however, the performance and feel through the tip is of primary importance to you, then maybe using another type of tip would suit you better, especially if you like to feel a firmer, but not ridiculously hard contact.
Absolutely none of the pro players I tip cues for like tips as hard as Talismans or the like, none of them.

What does that tell you?

[trevs1]

I've read this twice now the whole lot!

I'm bolo--ed if I can work which tip is really good and which is crappy.

Is there a general view to which tip is the bee’s knees or not?

I've just looked up the price form the talisman range! For that price the breaks have got to happen on their own. I should only have to stand up to collect the prize money.

I've been using Blue diamonds or Elk for the last 20 years. I can not imagine that the tip can make such a big difference.

Can anybody here really say that since they started playing with another tip make, that there average break went up by twenty or more?

I'd really like some Info on this!

Thanks

Brian.

Hi Brian,

To the first point - none of them are THE tip to use.

To the second point - they all vary a little and it's just a choice issue.

To the third point - I don't think Talismans are good value at all, no sir.

To the fourth point - Tip brands don't make any difference, if it's a good tip for you, then it's a good tip.

To the fifth point - Anyone saying that their play has improved solely based on what tip they use is either not being honest, or, is completely deluded. Good play and consistent heavy scoring happen for entirely different reasons.

[Strickimicki]

Morning Trevor,

my opinion exactly!

I just can't understand somebody paying 5 pounds for a tip!.

I,ve played with the normal tips (Blue diamond, elk) for years. If I get a bad one I simply cut it of and put a new one on.

I wouldn't say it's a tip thing, it's a mind thing!

You can't just cut of your head and put Ronnies on, can you?

Maybe there are better tips out there, but at reasonable prices.

I'll stick to my Blue Diamonds, and work on myself!

Of course when I get my new cue, Trevor. I expect to making just one chance and frame winning breaks.

Hope you have a good day.

All the best

Brian

[ADR147]

I don't agree £5 for a tip on a £500 cue is not expensive, in fact for me i would say it would work out cheaper than buying elks etc one at a time in a sports shop.

The people who use them, love them - in the end whatever tip you like is what suits you but i can say that without any doubt you will go through at least 5 blue diamonds for one talisman.

I can only speak for myself but i will never go back to a pressed tip, i really have felt the benefits of the layered tips and i know lots of people who agree.

[Strickimicki]

Morning ADR147,

could you try to put into words, what you mean the difference between BD's,
Elk's and Talisman is / are.

I'm not trying to get into an argument here. But i'll be damned if I can understand somebody giving out 5 pounds for 1 tip.

How is the feel? how does it take chalk? How does it grip the cueball?

How does it compare to one of Mike W's special tips?

If you have played them for some time, you must have an opinion of them that you put into words!

Where can I get one to try, without paying 5 pounds for the pleasure of it

all the best

Brian

[Nemesis]

Is there a layered tip you can buy which isnt rock hard and can take chalk ?

The Talisman medium i used was like a flippin stone on the end of my cue but i loved how easy it was to shape ! . I had it on for a week but took it off because it was so hard and i couldnt get sufficient reaction on the cue ball

[ADR147]

its not easy to explain all tips are different regardless of make but its not wise to make a judgement before you try it!!!

- pm your address and e-mail address and i will send you one plus a guide on how to fit it then you can come back and say what you think!! read this thread http://www.bsansw.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2259 then try the tip and i mean really try it then let me know what you think, i sell thousends of these and in the 10 years i have sold them i have had exactly 2 complaints both for delaminating.

the medium is in my opinion too hard for most people, only the soft is any good for snooker, they grip very well. the biggest difference you will notice is the sound is different but the great plus point is once you get it right and the way you like it to play with then it stays like that for ages - years.

[Strickimicki]

Ronnie and John play hard?

Is that right that Ronnie and John have played these things?

And that in the hard version?

I've just been reading the link you sent in your last post here!
Sounds interesting!

How big are the tip in new form 12mm or larger?

If they are as hard as you say in the hard version, then how the hell do they grip the ball?

I'm getting headache! I think I need sick leave! Then I can go play snooker

Questions over questions its hard work for I'm sorry!

[ADR147]

yes they both do - their cue action is maybe better than most and they play on cloths like glass. i only buy 11mm - experience tells me thats best!

[Strickimicki]

IF!

ADR147,

if these things work out, can you supply me with a mix from soft to hard?
I have avery smooth cue action myself and if these are the bees knees then I'd like to try a harder one!

I'll be back,

Brian