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  • #31
    I wonder who made that cue ?
    Not played for 3 years and itching for a game....11-3-2017.

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    • #32
      Originally Posted by warren132 View Post
      I wonder who made that cue ?
      its an original surely

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      • #33
        No chance ! the butt plug is different the plauqe is made of plastic and that is a maple splice....looks all to clean and new to me..
        Not played for 3 years and itching for a game....11-3-2017.

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        • #34
          Here is an original...take a look and judge for yourself.

          Not played for 3 years and itching for a game....11-3-2017.

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          • #35
            ive just been lookin at that one on ebay just out of interest!!!
            i know nowt about old cues, that one from pot black shows definite signs of age tho
            adr will clear it up

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            • #36
              Originally Posted by warren132 View Post
              No chance ! the butt plug is different the plauqe is made of plastic and that is a maple splice....looks all to clean and new to me..

              I think Andrew knows the different between a replica and a real cue, if it is a replica Andrew would be first to call it !!

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              • #37
                Originally Posted by warren132 View Post
                No chance ! the butt plug is different the plauqe is made of plastic and that is a maple splice....looks all to clean and new to me..
                clearly you are new to this my friend, whereas i have owned maybe 200 of these. it is original! just a bit later hence the slightly squarer badge. and a bit heavier - its not always the case before somebody shouts me down but usually that early burwats weight 15-16z and later ones 16-17.5oz the one everybody wants is when they are 18oz but they are very hard to find especially on earlier ones.
                https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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                • #38
                  Originally Posted by atm147iwish View Post
                  ive just been lookin at that one on ebay just out of interest!!!
                  i know nowt about old cues, that one from pot black shows definite signs of age tho
                  adr will clear it up
                  pot black is a chap called chris lloyd i have known him a long time, tell you what ask him if this one is real! - i have stated the only thing that is not original and that is the screws, and i did that!
                  https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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                  • #39
                    Originally Posted by warren132 View Post
                    No chance ! the butt plug is different the plauqe is made of plastic and that is a maple splice....looks all to clean and new to me..
                    its not a but plug its the ash that everything is spliced on to! hence it can vary in size, i am amazed somebody would call a cue a copy and not know this! i wonder why i bother sometimes!
                    https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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                    • #40
                      Originally Posted by ADR147 View Post
                      its not a but plug its the ash that everything is spliced on to! hence it can vary in size, i am amazed somebody would call a cue a copy and not know this! i wonder why i bother sometimes!

                      I would have to agree that the visible section of shaft left at the bottom of the cue butt is not really any indication of the originality of this kind of cue.

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                      • #41
                        Originally Posted by trevs1 View Post
                        I would have to agree that the visible section of shaft left at the bottom of the cue butt is not really any indication of the originality of this kind of cue.
                        true but it does call into question the knowledge of the person who brought it up!
                        https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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                        • #42
                          One things for sure Burwats never lose there appeal, you can never under-estimate the Alex Higgins effect on these even after all these years.

                          It can cause confusion but its worth knowing there's lots of Burwats which all vary in terms of style and weight, splices used etc 1st editions square back cut in the shape of a billiard cue, with indian rosewood butts 2nd editions more of a rounded back the rosewood replaced with ebony, 3rd editions & interim models, thats why its best to compare like for like.

                          Plus when you consider over how many years they were made there's quite a bit of difference between the very early versions to the later ones.

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                          • #43
                            true there are an awful lot - every year i see a couple i have never seen before - the only one i have not seen yet and would like is a pearwood one but i bet there is one out there.
                            https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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                            • #44
                              yes that's all part of the fun that keeps collectors & players interested, the search for the unspoilt mint one, the search for the illusive great playing one, or the one thats a little bit different to the rest you've seen.

                              My favourite has to be the first edition the indian rosewood butt looks lovely, as you say though not only ash versions, there are maple & pearwood...not to mention a few other versions we might not have even seen yet..........

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                              • #45
                                yes but deep down we know its an addiction!

                                i have a hornbeam one thats good - the prettiest i have seen had a leadwood front splice very nice.
                                https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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