How to darken the grains of ash, please?

[poolqjunkie]

Could anyone please share with me how you would go by darkening the grains on a piece of ash?
Thank you.

[samad]

why do u wanna do it ?? no idea as to how tho . lol

[subzeer0]

pm totlxtc with your querie.....he helped me with a smilar problem when i had to remove 2 felt tip signatures off a cue i hav and rubbed/pulled out the grain

good as new and undistinguishable....and a top bloke to boot

[poolqjunkie]

pm totlxtc with your querie.....he helped me with a smilar problem when i had to remove 2 felt tip signatures off a cue i hav and rubbed/pulled out the grain

good as new and undistinguishable....and a top bloke to boot

Thank you,and I am happy for you.

Is there a reason this method should not be made public?

[samad]

i'd certainly like to know how
(but i havnt posted 10 post so cant pm )

[totlxtc]

Thank you,and I am happy for you.

Is there a reason this method should not be made public?

Shhhh! Its a secret! (Actually i have said how to do it before ages ago but a little busy to trawl the forum)

Give me your address over PM and ill send you some kit and instructions on how to do it

Dan

[Mellow Yellow]

instructions dan pm'd me in the past.

save you the bother mate:

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No problem at all. I take it its a natural finish cue? If not you will have to take all the laquer/varnish off and refinish the cue.

It should take between 1hour and 3 hours to get done properly depending on if it a whole cue or just part of, but it will bring the cue back to life now. I found out how to do this a month ago and already done 16 cues now.

Right stuff you will need is:

Powder Dye (I can supply you with some)
Cuprinol Heavy duty wood filler (Homebase for about £2.99-£3.99)
000 grade wire wool
00000 wire wool
Very fine sandpaper

First thing to do is prepare the area and make sure its dirt and grease free. Next mix up a small about of filler with a very very small amount of the dye until the colour is matched. Do it in small amounts as the filler does dry quick and by the time you have done a small area it would dry up. With your thumb work the filler into the areas as thin as you can as the thicker it is the more rub down you will have to do. Try this on a small area first to get the idea then when confident do this to all the offending areas, and dont panic, it will look awful i promise you. When dry (about 10-20 mins) get the 000 wire wool and rub down the areas. You will see now the filler is left in the grain, whilst ash has revealed itself. When you have all the excess filler off (Which is the longest and hardest part), rub the areas down with 00000 wire wool till nice and shiny. I would recommend oiling, waxing and polish just to finish the job off which I can run you through how to do that, but to get a glass finish can take days, but is really worth the while.

[samad]

instructions dan pm'd me in the past.

save you the bother mate:

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No problem at all. I take it its a natural finish cue? If not you will have to take all the laquer/varnish off and refinish the cue.

It should take between 1hour and 3 hours to get done properly depending on if it a whole cue or just part of, but it will bring the cue back to life now. I found out how to do this a month ago and already done 16 cues now.

Right stuff you will need is:

Powder Dye (I can supply you with some)
Cuprinol Heavy duty wood filler (Homebase for about £2.99-£3.99)
000 grade wire wool
00000 wire wool
Very fine sandpaper

First thing to do is prepare the area and make sure its dirt and grease free. Next mix up a small about of filler with a very very small amount of the dye until the colour is matched. Do it in small amounts as the filler does dry quick and by the time you have done a small area it would dry up. With your thumb work the filler into the areas as thin as you can as the thicker it is the more rub down you will have to do. Try this on a small area first to get the idea then when confident do this to all the offending areas, and dont panic, it will look awful i promise you. When dry (about 10-20 mins) get the 000 wire wool and rub down the areas. You will see now the filler is left in the grain, whilst ash has revealed itself. When you have all the excess filler off (Which is the longest and hardest part), rub the areas down with 00000 wire wool till nice and shiny. I would recommend oiling, waxing and polish just to finish the job off which I can run you through how to do that, but to get a glass finish can take days, but is really worth the while.

will this only darken the grain or the whole ash ? stupid Q. but wanna make sure

[subzeer0]

does not affect the light part of the wood...merely fills any indentations where the grain is....quite effective

[RGCirencester]

I put some craftsman wax on my cue and i noticed it darkened the grain quite a bit. Wouldnt work for just a little part of the cue or if you like oil finished cues though. Interesting to hear thanks.

[JP1]

Email John Parris, he is on this forum I am sure he'll be happy to tell you.

[tmcthree]

biro definitely

[The Doctor]

A similar technique is to use a wood stain(not dye!!), i use ebony(available from B&Q and the like) but if you want a lighter grain there are a number of colours available.
You clean cue as said before and then apply with either a brush or cloth and make sure you get it right into the grain. The cue will look terrible at this stage, but do not fear. Using a fine grit paper or 0000 steel wool. gently rub down cue, removing excess wood stain leaving the grain darkened but the White of the ash exposed. Hope this helps.

[Asi]

When applying the stain wood, Is it ok to apply it on the whole shaft or only on the grains? and How long should the wood stain be left to dry before removing the excess with 0000 wire wool? TIA

[The Doctor]

Yes it is ok to put on whole cue just leave the instructed time to dry. you can get a quick drying one, its just as good.