Which UK makers, apart from Mike Wooldridge offer butterfly splices?
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Almost all of the main guys will do it, Robin, Dave Coutts, Tony Glover, North West, and, of course, the man who takes 3 years to finish a cue: Tony Ions. Tony I makes them on a regular basis, and cheaper than the others, but ...Il n'y a pas de problemes; il n'y a que des solutions qu'on n'a pas encore trouvées.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put in a fruit salad." Brian O'Driscoll.
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Sorry, I was interrupted, which is why I only posted half an answer to your question, Dan.
Robin, Dave, Tony et al will make you a butterfly-spliced cue, but it'll be HAND butterfly-spliced, and so, will cost about the same as a hand-spliced cue. Tony I and Kevin of North West have band saws and so on and will make MACHINE butterfly-spliced cues, which are much cheaper, roughly on a par with a machine-spliced cue.
I've seen a couple of Tony I's butterfly cues and they're really good; I've never seen one of Kev's. However, because of the inordinately long length of time it takes for him to get the cue to you, and the huge amount of bull's droppings you've got to put up with during that time, if it were me, I'd ask Kev.Il n'y a pas de problemes; il n'y a que des solutions qu'on n'a pas encore trouvées.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put in a fruit salad." Brian O'Driscoll.
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Thanks Keith. Tony Glover does not make them...just phoned. The reason I ask is i have a 20" long x 2" piece of purpleheart with ash like chevrons. It would be a waste to cut it up so im after a butterfly spliced cue, maple shaft.
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1pc or 3/4, Dan? If it's a 1pc, then ask Dave Coutts or Robin Cook, if it's a 3/4, then Robin's the best choice.
Or ask Kevin Muncaster if you can get hold of him.Il n'y a pas de problemes; il n'y a que des solutions qu'on n'a pas encore trouvées.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put in a fruit salad." Brian O'Driscoll.
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1pc with white maple. I also need to see about the weighting of it as the purpleheart is alot lighter than ebony. I know its abit different than the norm. But this piece is beautiful and a waste to be cut up. So i fancy myself a nice break cue
I would make it myself, but would a dentist do his own teeth
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Originally Posted by totlxtc View Post1pc with white maple. I also need to see about the weighting of it as the purpleheart is alot lighter than ebony. I know its abit different than the norm. But this piece is beautiful and a waste to be cut up. So i fancy myself a nice break cue
I would make it myself, but would a dentist do his own teeth
If you want to have this cue made up and you're providing the materials, but it's to be built, weighted etc then either Dave or Robin'd do a sterling job, but Robin's a litle less busy at the mo.
Tell him I sent you and I'm sure he'll charge you a little more than usual.Il n'y a pas de problemes; il n'y a que des solutions qu'on n'a pas encore trouvées.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put in a fruit salad." Brian O'Driscoll.
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A butterfly spliced cue has only 2 splices. Marco Fu plays with one, made by Kevin Deroo, and Mike Wooldridge makes them now (Shark series). They used to be common many years ago, and have only recently enjoyed a sort of renaissance.
A machine-made butterfly cue is similar to a machine-spliced cue, in that you have a short shaft and a solid butt, and you cut the butt and the shaft so that they can be joined together along the cuts made by the machine.
A hand-made butterfly cue, as far as I understand, is made like a 1-piece cue; you have a long shaft and then 2 pieces of wood are glued onto opposite sides of the tapered shaft, to make a cue from 3 pieces of wood, and not 5, like a traditional hand-spliced cue.Il n'y a pas de problemes; il n'y a que des solutions qu'on n'a pas encore trouvées.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put in a fruit salad." Brian O'Driscoll.
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Originally Posted by KeithinFrance View PostRobin, Dave, Tony et al will make you a butterfly-spliced cue, but it'll be HAND butterfly-spliced, and so, will cost about the same as a hand-spliced cue. Tony I and Kevin of North West have band saws and so on and will make MACHINE butterfly-spliced cues, which are much cheaper, roughly on a par with a machine-spliced cue.
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Originally Posted by KeithinFrance View PostA butterfly spliced cue has only 2 splices. Marco Fu plays with one, made by Kevin Deroo, and Mike Wooldridge makes them now (Shark series). They used to be common many years ago, and have only recently enjoyed a sort of renaissance.
A machine-made butterfly cue is similar to a machine-spliced cue, in that you have a short shaft and a solid butt, and you cut the butt and the shaft so that they can be joined together along the cuts made by the machine.
A hand-made butterfly cue, as far as I understand, is made like a 1-piece cue; you have a long shaft and then 2 pieces of wood are glued onto opposite sides of the tapered shaft, to make a cue from 3 pieces of wood, and not 5, like a traditional hand-spliced cue.
I always thought butterfly spliced is referred to a cue made like a Deroo cue or a MW shark, with a single butt piece glued to a shaft, with a V cut made on the shaft and butt.
So, Keith, you are saying the cue makers you have stated (Robin Cook, Dave Coutts, Tony Glover) who make their "hand butterfly spliced" cues make them with two pieces of ebony spliced to a shaft, and they do not make them with one single piece for the butt, is that correct?
And you are saying that this "butterfly spliced cue" is made like a one piece cue, so the shaft goes all the way through the splices and does not end at the junction of the splices?
May I ask how do you come up with this? Did they tell you this?
Have you seen such a cue? Can you show us any picture?
Has anyone seen such a cue, please?
I am really curious...Last edited by poolqjunkie; 25 September 2009, 05:38 PM.
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