Again about cues

[KeithinFrance]

I am having huge confidence in Robin and his craftmanship(is that correct word?) BTW my new cue is going to have cocobolo butt

Robin has also made US pool cues for Karen Corr and Mark Gray, both of whom have had great success with them; Karen uses hers on the US pool tour, and Mark on the European and UK tours. Karen's is a traditional, centre-joint cue whereas Mark's is a snooker-style 3/4 cue that he uses for pool. Apparently a lot of European players have tried his cue, and found it ideal for 9-ball. Just to show that Robin can make whatever you want in the way of cues, and it'll play well.

A cocobolo butt cue is a very good idea, Mark. I like this idea very much! Lol

Just a word about cue weights. I read that your 1st cue was 20oz, and now it's 18oz. A lot of people think that extra weight will help them to control the cue with less effort; in fact, it's more difficult to control a heavy cue, and it's difficult to get a well-balanced one, and it's balance that helps you to pot balls. I know you wanted a cue for both snooker and US pool, but I think you've got the right idea now: 1 cue for one game, and a 2nd for the other one.

[vucko117]

yes I know about Karren Corr and Mark Gray. Mark is actually using 10mm tip for US pool. And you can play with that tip size but it is much easier with 12 or even 13 mm.. My cue has a great balance but as I said only problem is that it tends to run a bit(don't know how to explain,hope you all understand) And I am sure that with 18oz I will remove that problem and that I will improve my game,hopefully,a lot Well I am making cue with cocobolo butt mostly because of you Keith You convinced me that cue with cocobolo butt has to be beautiful cue

[bkpaul]

You convinced me that cue with cocobolo butt has to be beautiful cue

Are you going to play with it or stand and admire it

I will never understand why people choose cue's on looks to a large degree or mess about with a cue because they want it to look better. I personally don't care what it looks like as long as it does exactly what I want it to do.

Inlay this inlay that...... waste of money.... unless there is a technical (weight/feel) reason.

Sorry its a sore point to me!

[vucko117]

well I would like to the both those things Of course that the most important thing is that cue plays perfect for you,but I also think that it is important that you like how your cue looks like

[poolqjunkie]

Robin has also made US pool cues for Karen Corr and Mark Gray, both of whom have had great success with them; Karen uses hers on the US pool tour, and Mark on the European and UK tours. Karen's is a traditional, centre-joint cue whereas Mark's is a snooker-style 3/4 cue that he uses for pool.

Karen was using a Falcon with a Predator shaft, after her sponsorship with Falcon expired, she started using a very beautiful Bill McDaniel wrapless cue with ivory and ebony with an ivory joint with a Predator shaft. Julie Kelly also uses a cue with identical design from Bill McDaniel. I believe they are still using their Bill McDaniel cues now. The joint is 5/16 x 14" ivory.

[vucko117]

are you sure? i have also heard that she is using robin cue. And when I was talking with Robin about material for ferule he said to me:"I have a white piece material which I am using for Karren Corr cues."

[poolqjunkie]

Just watch Karen on TV, or you tube.
I have seen that Bill McDaniel cue in my hand, I also had the same cue before. Hers has a slimmer butt though.
Before that, she was sponsored by Falcon cue, so she was using a Falcon cue.
May be she is switching to a Robin cue now, or may be she used to use one?
But for the last 5 years I am sure she was using one of the two cues I stated, with Predator 314 shaft.
About ferrule materials, there are quite a few, but usually LBM (linen based melamine)is quite good as it is not too heavy, stays clean, strong and durable, and is easy to glue and machine.
There are some new materials but I have not tried them, so do not know.

[poolqjunkie]

http://www.karencorr.net/

The cue she is holding on her home page in both pictures is the Bill McDaniel. It is made with ivory with I believe silver and/or abalone borders into ebony. There are also very beautiful inlays on the handle area. It has been a while but I believe they are diamond inlays in abalone with ivory border or something like that. I think she also has some kind of extensions built into her cue but I am not so sure about that, because it has been a while.

You can see the white joint, which is ivory, with black joint collars with ring works in the pictures. With all due respect, I do not think Robin Cook is able to make something like that as it involves some heavy investment in computerized equipment and may years of experience working with them. When I first saw this cue, the price tag was somewhere around $5000 I believe.

All I am saying is that I have seen this cue, watched Karen played many time live right in front of me--and I have never seen her with anything other than her Falcon or Bill McDaniel. If she has changed in the last few months than it is something I do not know, and of course it is possible.

[KeithinFrance]

Are you going to play with it or stand and admire it

I will never understand why people choose cue's on looks to a large degree or mess about with a cue because they want it to look better. I personally don't care what it looks like as long as it does exactly what I want it to do.

Inlay this inlay that...... waste of money.... unless there is a technical (weight/feel) reason.

Sorry its a sore point to me!

I hear you, but, if you can have a cue that does exactly what you want, AND is beautiful, wouldn't you be a happy bunny?! Instead of a plain ebony butt, get a cocobolo butt; it's got the same sort of characteristics as ebony but is infinitely more beautiful!

are you sure? i have also heard that she is using robin cue. And when I was talking with Robin about material for ferule he said to me:"I have a white piece material which I am using for Karren Corr cues."

Have a look at the front page of Robin's site and you'll see Karen and her cues, all made by Robin. If anyone has any doubts then they could ask Karen or Robin.

[marklewis81]

[QUOTE=KeithinFrance;420668]I hear you, but, if you can have a cue that does exactly what you want, AND is beautiful, wouldn't you be a happy bunny?! Instead of a plain ebony butt, get a cocobolo butt; it's got the same sort of characteristics as ebony but is infinitely more beautiful!

i've just ordered a cue from robin cook which is cocobolo butt with 4 thick maple veneers i cant wait

[bkpaul]

Well, most of the time I would hope I couldn't see the butt to be honest... and so the answer is still no unless it was the same price. A cue is for one thing playing snooker.

I certainly would never alter a cue to make it look better either as that's just asking for trouble.

I am the sort of person that would prefer to buy an older quality car than a new standard car, I also would never buy a new quality car as they devalue too quickly.

I don't buy brands where there is an eqivalent or better non branded product.

I'm not tight but I don't like to waste money either.

[KeithinFrance]

[QUOTE=marklewis81;420670]

I hear you, but, if you can have a cue that does exactly what you want, AND is beautiful, wouldn't you be a happy bunny?! Instead of a plain ebony butt, get a cocobolo butt; it's got the same sort of characteristics as ebony but is infinitely more beautiful!

i've just ordered a cue from robin cook which is cocobolo butt with 4 thick maple veneers i cant wait

Good man! Welcome to the cocobolo admirer's club!

[marklewis81]

[QUOTE=KeithinFrance;420672]

Good man! Welcome to the cocobolo admirer's club!

lol thanks, i've always been the same though never been a big fan of ebony dunno why, just prefered a nicer wood for main splice

[vucko117]

Well, most of the time I would hope I couldn't see the butt to be honest... and so the answer is still no unless it was the same price. A cue is for one thing playing snooker.

I certainly would never alter a cue to make it look better either as that's just asking for trouble.

I am the sort of person that would prefer to buy an older quality car than a new standard car, I also would never buy a new quality car as they devalue too quickly.

I don't buy brands where there is an eqivalent or better non branded product.

I'm not tight but I don't like to waste money either.

Well the price is going to be the same. And I agree about not altering the cue just because of the looks. That is suicide

[vucko117]

http://www.karencorr.net/

The cue she is holding on her home page in both pictures is the Bill McDaniel. It is made with ivory with I believe silver and/or abalone borders into ebony. There are also very beautiful inlays on the handle area. It has been a while but I believe they are diamond inlays in abalone with ivory border or something like that. I think she also has some kind of extensions built into her cue but I am not so sure about that, because it has been a while.

You can see the white joint, which is ivory, with black joint collars with ring works in the pictures. With all due respect, I do not think Robin Cook is able to make something like that as it involves some heavy investment in computerized equipment and may years of experience working with them. When I first saw this cue, the price tag was somewhere around $5000 I believe.

All I am saying is that I have seen this cue, watched Karen played many time live right in front of me--and I have never seen her with anything other than her Falcon or Bill McDaniel. If she has changed in the last few months than it is something I do not know, and of course it is possible.

Yes, I have seen that picture but then again I have also seen her on Robin's website... Does it really matter