buying a cue in England

[bkpaul]

Good to hear, now don't forget to treat her nicely!

[KeithinFrance]

I guess it's how important it is to you to find the right cue, like I said it's the most important decision a snooker player will ever make.

I do not suggest buying a cue at the tournament albeit you may find one there, I did say visit a few makers in the area and try theirs out, take 2 or 3 days out of the trip and try as many cues as possible, you may still not find one! but at least you have looked.

some players never find a cue that is right for them and they settle for an ok cue or constantly change their cue!.

I know a player that had a cue for 2 days, knocked in several massive breaks with it and still changed it because he didn't like it!, you will know when a cue is right for you....

You also have players that will blame a cue for all their misses and this type of player is destined to never achieve their best, you must have total (blind) confidence in your cue! only then will you be trully happy with it.

The problem with this is, as chatlag said, none of the custom cuemakers have any stock in to try out, as they make them to order and they go out the door. If you go to H&O or Parris, there're only the usual standard models which might be in stock for you to try, but any other maker won't have anything like this for you to try, apart from Dave Coutts, Tony Glover and Tony Wilshaw, who do have small stocks of other cues to sell; unfortunately, you might be unlucky and find nothing.

I agree with what you said about taking your time, choosing carefully to find your perfect cue, but, if you don't live in the UK, then your choices are extremely limited - you'll get poor quality Riley or BCE cues or perhaps a bad Cue Craft, but that's all!

The best solution when you live on the continent and you don't have a free week to go cue-hunting with a local driver and translator is to order 4 or 5 cues to your specs from a reputable cuemaker, as most pros do, but, most people don't have that sort of budget ... so you take the next best solution, which is to order one to your specs and hope you'll be lucky.

[bkpaul]

I am not disagreeing Keith,

I am forunate in that I live within easy reach of several quality makers (and other outlets) so have a great range to choose from.

I would say from what has been said that continental buyers are therefore at a significant disadvantage which is a great pity.

Maybe one of the makers may open a shop on the continent given this information, I am sure it would be well used!! and if this thread gives one the idea to do just that then it will be a most valuable thread indeed!

I have to say though the spec of a cue is not the be all and end all (far from it) but sometimes as has been pointed out you have to accept second best.

[noel]

Living in Canada? Pity.



=o(

Noel

[KeithinFrance]

I am not disagreeing Keith,

I am forunate in that I live within easy reach of several quality makers (and other outlets) so have a great range to choose from.

I would say from what has been said that continental buyers are therefore at a significant disadvantage which is a great pity.

Maybe one of the makers may open a shop on the continent given this information, I am sure it would be well used!! and if this thread gives one the idea to do just that then it will be a most valuable thread indeed!

I have to say though the spec of a cue is not the be all and end all (far from it) but sometimes as has been pointed out you have to accept second best.

However, sometimes you don't get 2nd best, what you get is the best cue you've ever had!

You can be lucky and pick up a cue and instantly feel that 'connection', that almost mystical feeling, but you can also have a cue in your specs and play with it and get used to it and end up feeling the same connection anyway.

[Core]

hello TSF

heya people

first off thank you all for contributing in this thread.i surtenly did't know this would turn out in a conversation about buying a cue without trying it...even if you know your measurements?
but as some said how can i ever try it if it is't made yet...i do want it to my specifics.....and normally as a customer i should be able to trust the maker?
i too would like to try it first but helas i think that won't be possible.i can't order it and then say i don't like it?

Nhow i looked at the virtual cue wizard of peradon
and i will explain a bit what i want and what my budget is.that could help more



specs

The cue will be Full Size 58" (147cm) in length, with a finest quality, specially selected, kiln dried Maple Shaft

The cue will have a Brass Quick Action 3/4 joint 12" from Butt and will fitted with 4 or 8 Large Olive Wood Splices.(depending on price)
and a possible 28 mm thick
You also requested to have Bright Green, Yellow and Red veneers/inlays fitted above the splice(s). (rasta color's)

The cue will weigh approximately 18.5 oz and will be fitted with a brass ferrule and a Standard 9.5mm (tolerance 0.1mm) Blue Diamond tip, and the butt will be finished with a nameplate engraved as requested.

The butt of the cue will be adapted to accept the 6" Mini Butt, 12" Telescopic Mini, 23" Telescopic Mini which will also be supplied.


this would cost me 404 £ aprox 450€'s.....and that is also my budget!

or these ones from trevor white..i realy am appreciating these ones !
but i don't know the price of'm.









its not that i don't wanne listen but most stores here are more expensive than just buying one over in the UK.

[KeithinFrance]

heya people

first off thank you all for contributing in this thread.i surtenly did't know this would turn out in a conversation about buying a cue without trying it...even if you know your measurements?
but as some said how can i ever try it if it is't made yet...i do want it to my specifics.....and normally as a customer i should be able to trust the maker?
i too would like to try it first but helas i think that won't be possible.i can't order it and then say i don't like it?

Nhow i looked at the virtual cue wizard of peradon
and i will explain a bit what i want and what my budget is.that could help more



specs

The cue will be Full Size 58" (147cm) in length, with a finest quality, specially selected, kiln dried Maple Shaft

The cue will have a Brass Quick Action 3/4 joint 12" from Butt and will fitted with 4 or 8 Large Olive Wood Splices.(depending on price)
and a possible 28 mm thick
You also requested to have Bright Green, Yellow and Red veneers/inlays fitted above the splice(s). (rasta color's)

The cue will weigh approximately 18.5 oz and will be fitted with a brass ferrule and a Standard 9.5mm (tolerance 0.1mm) Blue Diamond tip, and the butt will be finished with a nameplate engraved as requested.

The butt of the cue will be adapted to accept the 6" Mini Butt, 12" Telescopic Mini, 23" Telescopic Mini which will also be supplied.


this would cost me 404 £ aprox 450€'s.....and that is also my budget!

or these ones from trevor white..i realy am appreciating these ones !
but i don't know the price of'm.


its not that i don't wanne listen but most stores here are more expensive than just buying one over in the UK.

Hey Core,

Don't worry about the little discussions before, it's just our way over here on TSF. Everyone's got advice, opinions etc and wants to help as best they can.

About your cue specs, they're very normal and any cuemaker will be able to make a cue to them, no problem. Your budget is also very realistic and should enable you to get the cue you're looking for - what might be a little more problematic is the splicing, to be honest. The more splicing and decoration on a cue, the more expensive it'll be.

If you ask a cuemaker for a 3/4 cue your base price will be £235 (lowest) + at least £60 for the 4 splices + £40 for the veneers. You'll also have the extensions to consider: mini-butt approx. £40 + extending extension approx. £40. So the lowest you'll find will be approx. £415. + postage and packing. I think you're looking at about £450, minimum.

Personally, I've never seen a CueWizard cue, but ADR147 on this site can get you a great deal on their cues; I think it's at least 10% off. Just be sure to ask for an oil finish on your cue.

P.S. The Trev cues you like are waaayyy more than your budget. Sorry!

[Core]

thanks for the repley

as for the splicing ..i already thought that it would be more £.....but i'd could live without the extensions...thats a huge part of the budget, that could give me my 4 xtra splices if i wanted to


ohw and the cue wizard i mention is a virtual game that assembles cues online..it also gives a price estimate


and yea bout those trevor white ques...just for them cue's ....in what region of £ are we talking?
don't wanne be rude but does anyone has his pricelist for making cues ?

[KeithinFrance]

thanks for the repley

as for the splicing ..i already thought that it would be more £.....but i'd could live without the extensions...thats a huge part of the budget, that could give me my 4 xtra splices if i wanted to


ohw and the cue wizard i mention is a virtual game that assembles cues online..it also gives a price estimate


and yea bout those trevor white ques...just for them cue's ....in what region of £ are we talking?
don't wanne be rude but does anyone has his pricelist for making cues ?

If you have to choose between splice and extensions then choose the extensions, they're much more practical.

I know CueWizard, and if it's this cue with those splice and extensions you really want then do contact ADR147 as he'll get you a much better deal than the price you mentioned.

Trev doesn't have a pricelist; if you really want to know the prices of those cues (and I think you're talking at least £500 for any of them and probably more), then send a mail to trevor dot white @ virgin dot net and ask the man himself. However, he's really, really busy as always, and I don't know if he'll have the time to answer you, to be honest.

[Core]

a pic from cuewizard...
i did modify it a small bit as the statement above.....will mike wooldridge take a look if i ask him?





The cue will be Full Size 58" (147cm) in length, with a finest quality, specially selected, kiln dried Ash Shaft (don't want a ebony but,a complete ash cue)

The cue will have a Brass Quick Action 3/4 joint 12" from Butt and will fitted with 4 Large Olive Wood Splices.

You also requested to have Bright Green, Yellow and Red veneers/inlays fitted above the splice(s).(rasta color's..they represent me...LOL)

We will also fit 1 Small Ebony Splice (Front) with Red and Yellow veneer(s) fitted above the small splice(s) (they represent my country flag)

The cue will weigh approximately 18.5 oz and will be fitted with a brass ferrule and a Standard 9.5mm (tolerance 0.1mm) Blue Diamond tip, and the butt will be finished with a nameplate engraved as requested.(if possible)



i did send out a few mails...but i'm not shure who will return one.

[Core]

ohw yea i lke the butt to be 29 mm

[ChatLag]

For sure will Mike have a look at it if you send him your request.
But you will not be happy with the price.
To be honest I do not think that you will find a cue maker making such splicing plus extensions (and you really need them) for less that 700 EUR.

[Core]

heya Chatlag

peradon will make this que for 238£ ..on these specs...so i can try asking...i already have a no for shure ...but i could get a yes answer

[Core]

sorry for the double post ..But why is peradon so cheap then??...is it machine spliced cues?

[ChatLag]

heya Chatlag

peradon will make this que for 238£ ..on these specs...so i can try asking...i already have a no for shure ...but i could get a yes answer

You cannot compare the quality of a Peradon cue with those of the top cue maker.
But this does not mean that you can't get your perfect cue from Peradon.