LK.T the final model

[stan-mullin]

Haha...it is 100% handmade by Mr Tsang's hand.
For me,I also would pay for 1500GBP.How about u CUEINHAND?

And maybe sell it for £3000!!!!

I also like the cues Mr Tsang showed me and I will probably buy a cue on my next trip to China.

How are you Brother4? My apologies again for not spending much time with you in September..........:snooker:

[brother4]

Stan...I am good good,and u~
Last meet in China in March again and Dan Shelton will go with me too.

I still not yet try his top model cue now.
After I tried the cue of my next stock,I will tell u guys,it's a ART or a CUE.
For the lower model LK.T,I have been owned one before.I like the cue very much.I can said "It can better than the Thai,same with the UK's"
From the cues,it really show us his handcraft.
For the shaft,lot of ppl knows,NICE ARROW = POISON.
Let me ask for photos for other top model.

[poolqjunkie]

Thank you for the pictures.
I am sorry to say that this design is not original at all.
It is called Intarsia and has been used for many years in wood working and cue making.
It is basically a technique in which many smaller pieces of woods are inlaid together at different angles to form a special visual effect. (Usually scale which is the most common or spiral, or similiar kind of visual illusion).
This technique when done by hand could take a long time, but it can also be achieved by CNC, which is also not easy as it requires a lot of programming.
As you can see, the cue in the picture is much more intricate than the one made by LK.T. Not to take away anything from LK.T, just want to point out that this LK.T design is not an original design and is certainly not a prime example of intarsia.
I can't remember the first time I saw a cue made with intarsia, but it has to be at least 10 years ago.

[stan-mullin]

Stan...I am good good,and u~
Last meet in China in March again and Dan Shelton will go with me too.

We are planning to go to the expo in March, will let you know when we have booked the stand.
If not I'll look you up if I get the chance to go to HK

[unclevit]

Stan...I am good good,and u~
Last meet in China in March again and Dan Shelton will go with me too.

I still not yet try his top model cue now.
After I tried the cue of my next stock,I will tell u guys,it's a ART or a CUE.
For the lower model LK.T,I have been owned one before.I like the cue very much.I can said "It can better than the Thai,same with the UK's"
From the cues,it really show us his handcraft.
For the shaft,lot of ppl knows,NICE ARROW = POISON.
Let me ask for photos for other top model.

I can said "It can better than the Thai,same with the UK's. -----Yes, I totally agree to you. At this price it must be many times playing better than Omin, Mastercue or UT cues-----

[brother4]

Thank you for the pictures.
...
I can't remember the first time I saw a cue made with intarsia, but it has to be at least 10 years ago.

Let me send this photos to Mr Tsang.As he must be interest to see it.
(Maybe we will see this cue in 3month later.)

We are planning to go to the expo in March, will let you know when we have booked the stand.
If not I'll look you up if I get the chance to go to HK

OK...let's keep in touch~
And I will plan the trip for u.

I can said "It can better than the Thai,same with the UK's. -----Yes, I totally agree to you. At this price it must be many times playing better than Omin, Mastercue or UT cues-----

Don't think too much,Unclevit...It just my opinion...
HaHa...I have not any animus,please don't mind~

[unclevit]

Let me send this photos to Mr Tsang.As he must be interest to see it.
(Maybe we will see this cue in 3month later.)



OK...let's keep in touch~
And I will plan the trip for u.



Don't think too much,Unclevit...It just my opinion...
HaHa...I have not any animus,please don't mind~

Brother4 : I was kidding too. One good cue for player A may not be good for player B, etc. Each player is different. BTW, I really appreciate this 'dragon' design. But will take me a lot of attention not to let it be stolen at the Clubs !

[brother4]

Brother4 : I was kidding too. One good cue for player A may not be good for player B, etc. Each player is different. BTW, I really appreciate this 'dragon' design. But will take me a lot of attention not to let it be stolen at the Clubs !

I think the buyers will have his own table in their home.haha...
I also afraid my Arch will be stolen one day.^^
Unclevit,may I know do u a cuemaker too?

[unclevit]

I think the buyers will have his own table in their home.haha...
I also afraid my Arch will be stolen one day.^^
Unclevit,may I know do u a cuemaker too?

Brother4 : Believe me, the owner of this dragon cue won't keep it to himself. I am not a cuemaker, but have been in the cuemaking business, watching a number of good Thai cuemakers doing their works (shaft selection/plaining, splicing, balance, etc.), since 1998. Quit playing since 2001 (served as a National Team member on Trap&Skeet Shooting since) and just got back into the games only last 3 months. Now a lousy player, but having funs playing the games every now and then. Tai Pichit, now our National Coach, used to be my coach back in 1998. A failed student

[andi mack]

This post is 100% IMHO and no disrespect is intended.

Personally the design is not my cup of tea, i'd prefer something much simpler / classier. That cue just screams "All the gear and no idea", "Steal Me" and "more money than sense".

As a peice of art, it'd be worth £1500 easy. Hell look at some of the crap that sells for tens of thousands of pounds and is considered art.

As a playing cue, NEVER in a million years is it worth that much. Maybe £250- £300 shipped.

[brother4]

Brother4 : Believe me, the owner of this dragon cue won't keep it to himself....A failed student

Nice to meet u,unclevit.

This post is 100% IMHO and no disrespect is intended....NEVER in a million years is it worth that much. Maybe £250- £300 shipped.

Haha...For my opinion,how about it is a art cue?
Lot of ppl are same view with u.
Art = 1500GBP ; Cue = 300GBP.
So total will be 1800GBP,right? haha~

Um...seems this cue is return to the ORIGINAL of CUE...a "WOODWORK"
And Mr Tsang seems return to a "CARPENTER",not a "CUEMAKER".

[poolqjunkie]

I think anyone can tell the amount of work that has gone into a cue when one is presented with a muesum quality cue.

About this dragon cue, it is a nice looking cue, but I would not consider it "art".

Intarsia can be achieved by CNC, and some designs are, frankly, not possible without CNC. But still, one needs to have state of the art equipment and be very skillful to pull it off successfully.

The cue in the first attached picture was made in 1800. It is a marquery cue, all done by hand. It is what I would called "art".

The second cue is made with ivory and ebony. All white is ivory with very intricate engraving on the ivory points. It is made by
CNC as well as by hand. I personally am not too fond of this design but I cannot help to admire the amount of work that the maker has put into the cue.

These type of cues in my opinion are what I would call "art".

Brother 4, why don't you try to ask Mr. Tsang to make something like these, I would love to see that. Even if he could, I am sure it would take much longer than 3 months though.

It is hard to really tell the value of this LK.T cue without a close up look. For example, can you see any glue line, are the inlays tight and well fitted, are they all the same or of different shapes...etc--these are all very important factors in judging the value of his work.

[khizzy]

probably 500, perhaps 600 if the ash on the cue was better

[eaoin11]

Whether it's art, or worth the price tag or not, those splices on LK's cue certainly look a lot more intricate than any other snooker cue I've seen.

PoolJunkie, I don't know much about how american style cues are put together, but is it really fair to compare what's possible for american cues to the splicing on snooker cues?

Isn't there something different in their general design that makes it possible to do a lot more crazy stuff for american style pool cues? I think the butt of snooker cues is basically one peice of wood in the end, but for american cues there's a core and a sleeve (?). I'm not sure about the terminology.

[poolqjunkie]

This LK.T cue is not made with splicings alone. The dragon patterns are inlays.
I think when you start using inlays on a cue, you are venturing outside the boundary of basic snooker cue making.
To perform inlay on a cue the technique is more or less the same with pool cue or snooker cue I think...can't really think of any big difference.
I have seen some Kevin Deroo snooker cues with inlays, too.
In all fairness though, some of these fancy pool cues are over $10,000.
I was just trying to point out that this "intarsia" technique has been used for many years on cues, not trying to take anything away from LK.T. Some peopel seem to believe that this is an original idea.
Thsi Lk.T cue could be really nice, but it is indeed very hard, if not impossible to judge how much a cue is worth from picture alone--when the value of the cue lies so much on the inlay works, it is important to actually see the work up close, in order to know if it is done well.