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  • #16
    Originally Posted by RGCirencester View Post
    You'll find them on ebay ranging from 15 pounds to 80 pounds for a set with a case. They are really really hit and miss and the good ones arn't as good as a proper cue anyways. They are alright for beginners but I wouldn't recommend them.

    They are nearly always accompanied by badly written english and flashy pictures and adds trying to persuade you to buy them. Difference between them and somebody like welshpool, craftsman etc. is they let their product do the selling.
    What is the quality of welshpool cues? what about their prices?
    It's not the pace of life that concerns me... It's whether I make a 147 break before it ends!
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    • #17
      Stock cues Paul sells on ebay. Or you can order a custom cue from him through his website.
      http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Welsh-...__W0QQ_armrsZ1
      http://www.welshpooltrading.co.uk/

      I got a custom welshpool back in March for 160 with a matching 6" mini butt.
      http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...php?albumid=18
      As a playing cue I think it looks and plays great. If you are particularly anal about splices being perfectly in line, ebony being completely black etc. you might find faults but for the price I think they are great cues.
      sigpic A Truly Beakerific Long Pot Sir!

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      • #18
        Originally Posted by King T View Post
        Hello everyone,

        I guess I would consider my self rather lucky to join such a great community right before buying myself a cue.

        Your wisdom and experience is kindly requested.

        My little story is that when I actually thought of buying a new cue, I was looking for something handmade, good quality and most importantly, unique elegant design. I came across a website which had many many links to websites that make both pool and snooker cues listed from A-Z.

        The one site that really caught my attention was Dunn's cues. To be honest I fell for their cue under the name: Malachi



        I showed my friend the cue and their website and he also was impressed by their nice cues, unique yet very simple and straight to the point. My friend fell for one of their cues called: Marble



        We were both finalizing our decisions when I recently joined this forum and came across the thread: dunns cues: http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...t=19966&page=3

        TBH the thread completely devastated me as some members reckoned simply that their cues are HORRIBLE!

        The guy at Dunn's called Vernon was supportive and prompt, I admit he did irritate me once, when I was asking him too many questions he said if you are worried, why not get a John Parris? I replied rudely and said, it's good to see how welcoming you are by turning your customers to other Cue makers. Other than that, he sounded so confident about their products and pasted me an email by one of their customers sounding SOO HAPPY about his Malachi.

        He also attached a picture for a Malachi and the wood looked really good at the side.

        I am completely lost and confused, the idea of a new cue got stuck in my head and there is no way I back off, however which cue? I don't know anymore. I was so close of ordering the Malachi till I saw that thread.

        Any advices? I saw nice cues on the forum which many members recommended and worshiped their quality, how ever TW, H&O and other brands are so expensive, 128 pounds + shipping sounded very reasonable, 500 GBP is just too much.

        In Bahrain we have no cues other than O'min, Master and CHEAP REPLICA John Parris cues! Nearly 50% of Bahraini snooker players use cheap fake JP's.

        I played with a O'min Climax, costs 150 Bahraini Dinars (260 GBP) which is a lot to me, however the balance of the cue, the weight and all seemed just perfect.

        Should I go with a used proper cue? Should I proceed with the Malachi? Or do those top cue makers (Mike Wooldridge, H&O, TW etc...) offer reasonably cheap cues, yet the quality is not bad?

        I would really appreciate your advice guys.

        Thanks in advance.
        heres the JX cue that looks suspiciosuly like the bottom picture...

        the butt is pretty much identical apart from the name badge

        http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JXA2-4pcs-EBON...item2302c5ae21

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        • #19
          Originally Posted by andy carson View Post
          heres the JX cue that looks suspiciosuly like the bottom picture...

          the butt is pretty much identical apart from the name badge

          http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JXA2-4pcs-EBON...item2302c5ae21

          Yeah they look very a like however I think that is not huge issue? I think the main concern is the qualtiy and customer service of the manufucturer.

          I mean there are many cues that look very similar, I've seen cues that look identical to JP Elite and superior.

          So it is agreed by everyone that Dunn cues are not worth it??

          What is the best cue 150-170 pounds can buy?
          It's not the pace of life that concerns me... It's whether I make a 147 break before it ends!
          Quote © to Craftman Cues.

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          • #20
            Why don't you just get a slightly more expensive one, to guarantee that nothing will go wrong?

            I would ask the same question.
            Last edited by Cue; 14 December 2009, 09:05 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally Posted by King T View Post
              Hello everyone,

              I guess I would consider my self rather lucky to join such a great community right before buying myself a cue.

              Your wisdom and experience is kindly requested.

              My little story is that when I actually thought of buying a new cue, I was looking for something handmade, good quality and most importantly, unique elegant design. I came across a website which had many many links to websites that make both pool and snooker cues listed from A-Z.

              The one site that really caught my attention was Dunn's cues. To be honest I fell for their cue under the name: Malachi



              I showed my friend the cue and their website and he also was impressed by their nice cues, unique yet very simple and straight to the point. My friend fell for one of their cues called: Marble



              We were both finalizing our decisions when I recently joined this forum and came across the thread: dunns cues: http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...t=19966&page=3

              TBH the thread completely devastated me as some members reckoned simply that their cues are HORRIBLE!

              The guy at Dunn's called Vernon was supportive and prompt, I admit he did irritate me once, when I was asking him too many questions he said if you are worried, why not get a John Parris? I replied rudely and said, it's good to see how welcoming you are by turning your customers to other Cue makers. Other than that, he sounded so confident about their products and pasted me an email by one of their customers sounding SOO HAPPY about his Malachi.

              He also attached a picture for a Malachi and the wood looked really good at the side.

              I am completely lost and confused, the idea of a new cue got stuck in my head and there is no way I back off, however which cue? I don't know anymore. I was so close of ordering the Malachi till I saw that thread.

              Any advices? I saw nice cues on the forum which many members recommended and worshiped their quality, how ever TW, H&O and other brands are so expensive, 128 pounds + shipping sounded very reasonable, 500 GBP is just too much.

              In Bahrain we have no cues other than O'min, Master and CHEAP REPLICA John Parris cues! Nearly 50% of Bahraini snooker players use cheap fake JP's.

              I played with a O'min Climax, costs 150 Bahraini Dinars (260 GBP) which is a lot to me, however the balance of the cue, the weight and all seemed just perfect.

              Should I go with a used proper cue? Should I proceed with the Malachi? Or do those top cue makers (Mike Wooldridge, H&O, TW etc...) offer reasonably cheap cues, yet the quality is not bad?

              I would really appreciate your advice guys.

              Thanks in advance.
              My advice would be to stay away from Dunn's cues; yes, they can be attractive-looking, but I've never come across a good player yet, which is the most important thing.

              What I'd like to know is: why are you looking for another cue? If I've read your story correctly, you have played with an O'Min cue? That you say is perfect? Why not buy that one, then? A good O'Min cue is as good as anything out there. The most difficult thing in ordering a cue is not the aesthetic qualities, the 'look' of a cue, but getting the playability right. If you've found the 'perfect' cue in this O'Min, then buy it.

              The best piece of advice I've heard is to buy the best quality cue you can afford, as it's an investment, and £260 is not excessively expensive for a high-quality cue, IMO.
              Il n'y a pas de problemes; il n'y a que des solutions qu'on n'a pas encore trouvées.

              "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put in a fruit salad." Brian O'Driscoll.

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              • #22
                HUNT & OSBORNE in Tooting in London are excellent cue makers but I'm not sure of their prices. I think their website is huntandosborne.com

                It's great to have a gorgeous looking cue but one of the best players I've ever played won the World Amateur title with a rack cue. So it's more important that you get along with the cue you play with than it looking like a million dollars.
                I often use large words I don't really understand in an attempt to appear more photosynthesis.

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                • #23
                  Originally Posted by KeithinFrance View Post
                  My advice would be to stay away from Dunn's cues; yes, they can be attractive-looking, but I've never come across a good player yet, which is the most important thing.

                  What I'd like to know is: why are you looking for another cue? If I've read your story correctly, you have played with an O'Min cue? That you say is perfect? Why not buy that one, then? A good O'Min cue is as good as anything out there. The most difficult thing in ordering a cue is not the aesthetic qualities, the 'look' of a cue, but getting the playability right. If you've found the 'perfect' cue in this O'Min, then buy it.

                  The best piece of advice I've heard is to buy the best quality cue you can afford, as it's an investment, and £260 is not excessively expensive for a high-quality cue, IMO.
                  The O'min I played with and felt that it has the perfect weight, tip size, weight balance, etc... doesn't belong to me, it belongs to my Uncle who's a local snooker champion in Bahrain.

                  The thing is I am planning to get a cue which I will play with, get used to and not change anytime soon, who knows maybe not change at all? I want it to be adequate where I can improve with the cue and not feel it's inefficiency in the soon future like the BCE cue I have right now.

                  The thing is O'min cues are everywhere in Bahrain, you will find them held by noob snooker players whom do not even know the term "develop" and I am not exaggerating nor kidding, to top players in Bahrain.

                  You wouldn't want to carry a cue where many others have you know, especially in a small country like Bahrain.

                  It would really be nice to carry an outlandish cue where no one here have ever seen, something exclusive and unique.

                  Thank you for support. What would you recommend?
                  It's not the pace of life that concerns me... It's whether I make a 147 break before it ends!
                  Quote © to Craftman Cues.

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                  • #24
                    Originally Posted by magicman View Post
                    HUNT & OSBORNE in Tooting in London are excellent cue makers but I'm not sure of their prices. I think their website is huntandosborne.com

                    It's great to have a gorgeous looking cue but one of the best players I've ever played won the World Amateur title with a rack cue. So it's more important that you get along with the cue you play with than it looking like a million dollars.
                    Indeed you are very right my friend according to members on TSF H&O is one of the best cue makers on the planet which is why Sullivan is currently using an H&O and which is why their cheapest plain ebony cue costs 270 pounds
                    It's not the pace of life that concerns me... It's whether I make a 147 break before it ends!
                    Quote © to Craftman Cues.

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                    • #25
                      Welshpool trading, mastercraft, craftsman cues, all will do you a good cue at a good price, best advice would be to try out many cues at a shop and buy the one you like best, but as this is not always possible sometimes you just have to pick a maker, and order what you like.
                      sigpic A Truly Beakerific Long Pot Sir!

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                      • #26
                        Originally Posted by King T View Post
                        The O'min I played with and felt that it has the perfect weight, tip size, weight balance, etc... doesn't belong to me, it belongs to my Uncle who's a local snooker champion in Bahrain.

                        The thing is I am planning to get a cue which I will play with, get used to and not change anytime soon, who knows maybe not change at all? I want it to be adequate where I can improve with the cue and not feel it's inefficiency in the soon future like the BCE cue I have right now.

                        The thing is O'min cues are everywhere in Bahrain, you will find them held by noob snooker players whom do not even know the term "develop" and I am not exaggerating nor kidding, to top players in Bahrain.

                        You wouldn't want to carry a cue where many others have you know, especially in a small country like Bahrain.

                        It would really be nice to carry an outlandish cue where no one here have ever seen, something exclusive and unique.

                        Thank you for support. What would you recommend?
                        Originally Posted by RGCirencester View Post
                        Welshpool trading, mastercraft, craftsman cues, all will do you a good cue at a good price, best advice would be to try out many cues at a shop and buy the one you like best, but as this is not always possible sometimes you just have to pick a maker, and order what you like.
                        Rob's advice is good, but if you're looking for something "outlandish, exclusive and unique" then I don't know if you'll find it there. O'Min's top quality cues have really unusual woods in the splicing, and we know the quality of O'M's work. You could contact Stu at greenbaize, as he's got really good cues at very reasonable prices, and some with unusual woods in the splicing.

                        However, what I'd recommend first of all is that you find a good cue, and that you distinguish yourself by the quality of your play - you can have the most unusual cue in the world, but if you can't use it nobody cares. The only reason people care what cue a snooker pro uses is because he can use it so well, no?

                        If I were you, I'd forget the 'look' of the cue, and concentrate on getting yourself a really good cue with similar specs and feel to your uncle's cue, as apparently that one works for you - and who better to make a similar cue than the guy who made it?
                        Il n'y a pas de problemes; il n'y a que des solutions qu'on n'a pas encore trouvées.

                        "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put in a fruit salad." Brian O'Driscoll.

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                        • #27
                          Originally Posted by King T View Post
                          The O'min I played with and felt that it has the perfect weight, tip size, weight balance, etc... doesn't belong to me, it belongs to my Uncle who's a local snooker champion in Bahrain.

                          The thing is I am planning to get a cue which I will play with, get used to and not change anytime soon, who knows maybe not change at all? I want it to be adequate where I can improve with the cue and not feel it's inefficiency in the soon future like the BCE cue I have right now.

                          The thing is O'min cues are everywhere in Bahrain, you will find them held by noob snooker players whom do not even know the term "develop" and I am not exaggerating nor kidding, to top players in Bahrain.

                          You wouldn't want to carry a cue where many others have you know, especially in a small country like Bahrain.

                          It would really be nice to carry an outlandish cue where no one here have ever seen, something exclusive and unique.

                          Thank you for support. What would you recommend?
                          It sounds like you are going more for looks than how the cue plays. Nice to have a cue that people will admire, but as players I'm sure most would much rather a plain cue which will help you reach your full potential. You might get one which looks great aswell though.
                          My personal choice would be from £100-200 Mastercraft and from £200-400 Stamford.

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                          • #28
                            Originally Posted by King T View Post
                            The O'min I played with and felt that it has the perfect weight, tip size, weight balance, etc... doesn't belong to me, it belongs to my Uncle who's a local snooker champion in Bahrain.

                            The thing is I am planning to get a cue which I will play with, get used to and not change anytime soon, who knows maybe not change at all? I want it to be adequate where I can improve with the cue and not feel it's inefficiency in the soon future like the BCE cue I have right now.

                            The thing is O'min cues are everywhere in Bahrain, you will find them held by noob snooker players whom do not even know the term "develop" and I am not exaggerating nor kidding, to top players in Bahrain.

                            You wouldn't want to carry a cue where many others have you know, especially in a small country like Bahrain.

                            It would really be nice to carry an outlandish cue where no one here have ever seen, something exclusive and unique.

                            Thank you for support. What would you recommend?
                            Important questions: What is your budget? Which cuemaker's cues do you have access to in Bahrain? Is there a snooker shop where you can select a cue? What sort of stock do they have? What specs are you looking for?
                            Il n'y a pas de problemes; il n'y a que des solutions qu'on n'a pas encore trouvées.

                            "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put in a fruit salad." Brian O'Driscoll.

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                            • #29
                              Originally Posted by King T View Post
                              The O'min I played with and felt that it has the perfect weight, tip size, weight balance, etc... doesn't belong to me, it belongs to my Uncle who's a local snooker champion in Bahrain.

                              The thing is I am planning to get a cue which I will play with, get used to and not change anytime soon, who knows maybe not change at all? I want it to be adequate where I can improve with the cue and not feel it's inefficiency in the soon future like the BCE cue I have right now.

                              The thing is O'min cues are everywhere in Bahrain, you will find them held by noob snooker players whom do not even know the term "develop" and I am not exaggerating nor kidding, to top players in Bahrain.

                              You wouldn't want to carry a cue where many others have you know, especially in a small country like Bahrain.

                              It would really be nice to carry an outlandish cue where no one here have ever seen, something exclusive and unique.

                              Thank you for support. What would you recommend?
                              King T : Just a Festive Season surprise for you, I can get you an Omin Climax for only P.Stg.150, excluding delivery. With this price, you will get the selected quality ash shaft, in action you want + sizes you need (length, butt dia., tip mm., Weight, and Balance point). With special badge, not the same with ready-made version. ONE CUE ONLY. Christmas Gift. But if you want a unique cue that nobody is carrying, then you will have to pass this 'Joyful' offer
                              Last edited by unclevit; 15 December 2009, 08:35 AM.
                              It's in the Shaft

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                              • #30
                                Originally Posted by unclevit View Post
                                King T : Just a Festive Season surprise for you, I can get you an Omin Climax for only P.Stg.150, excluding delivery. With this price, you will get the selected quality ash shaft, in action you want + sizes you need (length, butt dia., tip mm., Weight, and Balance point). ONE CUE ONLY. Christmas Gift
                                Now that's a nice idea! A Climax for only £150 - say yes, King T, I don't know if you'll get a better offer.
                                Il n'y a pas de problemes; il n'y a que des solutions qu'on n'a pas encore trouvées.

                                "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put in a fruit salad." Brian O'Driscoll.

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