O´min cues - experiences, aggregate topic

[BoBnoGG!n]

Most British cues makers concentrate with the top end stuff that are at least a few hundred pounds. Can't compete for price against chinese I guess so theirs is a niche market catering to the more serious players with more money. If you went down to Omins setup in bangkok he makes cues for all level of palyers and budget. From 15 pound machine made to handmades costing 300 to 400 USD. If I were to place any of omins top quality cue against the best of the british made cues there would be a few surprise in you assesment especially if I were to play with a handmade british cue without a badge and an omin cue without a badge many might actually choose an Omin. So as far as build quality goes Omin cues are amongst the best there is. The other thing about omin is that he is a top bloke. U can walk into his workshop and test any cues for hours and he is always on hand to advise etc. His stock of material is impressive. If you want a 20 year old piece of maple or an ash shaft with close grain he has it. So he is a serious and dedicated cue maker and i have as yet not seen a major complaint about his cues

only complaint i hear is that its NOT english. which sounds a touch racist wen said like that.. haha

to be honest again, you dont get ignorance anywhere in the world like you do in australia when it comes to cuesports. a lot of australians seems to be blinded by the thought of a 'good english cue' and are often convinced, and misled to spend 500+pounds on something as plain as a bottom of the line peradon, which plays like crap. when i try out their cues, i dont want to make them feel bad, so i tell them it feels good, and they got a reasonable bargain. ive heard so many players tell me crap about how chinese cues are mass produced, and how english handmade cues are the best, and you wont get anything like 'english ash'; a term i feel is misused of misunderstood, cause as i understand it now, OLD ENGLISH ASH is more or less, rare to obtain. yet players, very serious players who are 'respected' as knowledgable people, feed me information which i dont believe, and consider crap, because actual knowledgable people on here hav told me otherwise. id go by ADR147's testimony over ANY PERSON in australia, anyday. and the moment i tell them i read it on a forum, and was discussed by some of the worlds leading experts, they act as if im misled or something. makes me sad, but also feel a bit good inside to know that maybe theyre the ones who need to open their eyes more and not me -_-

[wannabenumb]

What does your skill level have to do with the cue. You make it sound like you
can beat anyone. I am not sure if you have answered the question regarding
a good cue. You seem to suggest that most of the cue makers in the world
are crap? So what cue do you use? or is there anyone cue made in the world
that you like? If you don't like O'min what is it you don't like about it or the
other cue's you mention.

Pardon me if i sound too pro a player to you, im still learning how to be humble alibit. Question me my english skill level instead of snooker, as i don't know how to type around the bush unconstructively on comments. Please, for god sake and for my only good...there're soo many cue makers here and how do i dare say or even suggest they're "crappy", let alone comments as i didn't even own and tried them out before!! It's whether i got the financial ability to own them and 'if.. im able to afford them one of these days, i'll definately get myself a cue from each and every cue makers cos im drooling all over when i saw those pix! IMO, its more likely that a good cue falling into hands of a crappy player.

Recently, im fortunate enough to own a here so-called decent enough cue and that happens to be O'min cos the owner of this cue upgraded to "JOHN PARRIS". After having owned an O'min cue and played with it, i will not use a china made again! Read my earlier post and its ain't difficult to comprehend, did i say i don't like O'min? Having said that, which cue make do you think im roughly suggesting that is crappy???

You asked which cue made i liked. Well they are (in 'No particular order)

1. Mike Wooldridge
2. Trevor White
3. John parris
4. H & O
5. Uncle thai
6. Dan Shelton
7. Tony Wilshaw
6. Robin Cook
8. Craftsman
7. O'min "as i fell in love after using it"
8. sure to have missed out some but however, they're not in the pirioity list BTW.

[bob1]

Pardon me if i sound too pro a player to you, im still learning how to be humble alibit. Question me my english skill level instead of snooker, as i don't know how to type around the bush unconstructively on comments. Please, for god sake and for my only good...there're soo many cue makers here and how do i dare say or even suggest they're "crappy", let alone comments as i didn't even own and tried them out before!! It's whether i got the financial ability to own them and 'if.. im able to afford them one of these days, i'll definately get myself a cue from each and every cue makers cos im drooling all over when i saw those pix! IMO, its more likely that a good cue falling into hands of a crappy player.

Recently, im fortunate enough to own a here so-called decent enough cue and that happens to be O'min cos the owner of this cue upgraded to "JOHN PARRIS". After having owned an O'min cue and played with it, i will not use a china made again! Read my earlier post and its ain't difficult to comprehend, did i say i don't like O'min? Having said that, which cue make do you think im roughly suggesting that is crappy???

You asked which cue made i liked. Well they are (in 'No particular order)

1. Mike Wooldridge
2. Trevor White
3. John parris
4. H & O
5. Uncle thai
6. Dan Shelton
7. Tony Wilshaw
6. Robin Cook
8. Craftsman
7. O'min "as i fell in love after using it"
8. sure to have missed out some but however, they're not in the pirioity list BTW.

Correct you did not use the word crappy, but when you change the name of
the cue makers to different stupid names and state that you can beat" sooo"
many players with such cue's it certainly does not make you look like that
you are humble in any way. The fact that you seem to imply that you have
access or tried many cues is great.
What I suggest that if you like the o'min, stick with it since you seem to have
such good results with it.

frankly your first post was" difficult to comprehend".

If you are as good a snooker player as you are sarcastic Ronnie better
look out! I agree with you, working on being a little more Humble is a good
idea.

[wannabenumb]

Correct you did not use the word crappy, but when you change the name of
the cue makers to different stupid names and state that you can beat" sooo"
many players with such cue's it certainly does not make you look like that
you are humble in any way. The fact that you seem to imply that you have
access or tried many cues is great.
What I suggest that if you like the o'min, stick with it since you seem to have
such good results with it.

frankly your first post was" difficult to comprehend".

If you are as good a snooker player as you are sarcastic Ronnie better
look out! I agree with you, working on being a little more Humble is a good
idea.

So you are saying those cue makers names are stupid' and thats what you mean right? Right, 'NOT FOR ME' and that's ain't what i mean and there's only just this little humour problem in me that all, i respect all of em' ya!

Yup, i said i can beat sooo many players and its true so what then? In fact, im a coach in my club and i assume no one knows it too when i don't say a word. Im a century breaker too bob1!

At least you agreed that i needs to work on my humbleness and thats a good idea bob1, i'l be working my way towards it.
Sarcastic? Am I??? But what to look out for? Im not afraid of anything, especially in S'pore.

Which part of my post you couldn't understand? Im ready to render my assistance to you anytime, just name it! Oh for sure bob1, i'll be continueing using my one and only hO'le Me maple cue. Looks like a pro' and play like one with it. I'l heed your advise, thanks!

Now that i've taken the effort to name you all cue makes that i like, now what? Anything to comments?

Cheers bob1 !!!

[bob1]

So you are saying those cue makers names are stupid' and thats what you mean right? Right, 'NOT FOR ME' and that's ain't what i mean and there's only just this little humour problem in me that all, i respect all of em' ya!

Yup, i said i can beat sooo many players and its true so what then? In fact, im a coach in my club and i assume no one knows it too when i don't say a word. Im a century breaker too bob1!

At least you agreed that i needs to work on my humbleness and thats a good idea bob1, i'l be working my way towards it.
Sarcastic? Am I??? But what to look out for? Im not afraid of anything, especially in S'pore.

Which part of my post you couldn't understand? Im ready to render my assistance to you anytime, just name it! Oh for sure bob1, i'll be continueing using my one and only hO'le Me maple cue. Looks like a pro' and play like one with it. I'l heed your advise, thanks!

Now that i've taken the effort to name you all cue makes that i like, now what? Anything to comments?

Cheers bob1 !!!

The point of this thread was to discuss the pro's and con's of the O'min cue
vs your life story of what a great player you say you are.

" Your not afraid of anything" Well good for you.

Who cares that you are a century guy or a coach, what does that have to
do with the O'min cue or what cues other people use that you can beat, Gee good for you!

Like I said Ronnie better look out when in S'pore.

[willytan]

So you are saying those cue makers names are stupid' and thats what you mean right? Right, 'NOT FOR ME' and that's ain't what i mean and there's only just this little humour problem in me that all, i respect all of em' ya!

Yup, i said i can beat sooo many players and its true so what then? In fact, im a coach in my club and i assume no one knows it too when i don't say a word. Im a century breaker too bob1!

At least you agreed that i needs to work on my humbleness and thats a good idea bob1, i'l be working my way towards it.
Sarcastic? Am I??? But what to look out for? Im not afraid of anything, especially in S'pore.

Which part of my post you couldn't understand? Im ready to render my assistance to you anytime, just name it! Oh for sure bob1, i'll be continueing using my one and only hO'le Me maple cue. Looks like a pro' and play like one with it. I'l heed your advise, thanks!

Now that i've taken the effort to name you all cue makes that i like, now what? Anything to comments?

Cheers bob1 !!!

Hi bro,

Just keep your snooker capability all to yourself, actions speaks louder than words. There are alot more mates here who can achieve what you hardly achieve.

Anyway, we should go back to the thread topic which is about O'min cue vs
other cue makers. Since you have a limited experience with other cue makers, maybe you can explain how you feel about the likes of mastercue (lots of them locally), John Parris (from your friend & boss), and whatever china made cues you owned or tried.

Lastly, if you are so good on the snooker table, dun let your scoring talent go to waste. Enroll for the upcoming ranking tourney held at East Zone @ECP, who knows with your capability you might be able to win the championship for 2010?

Actions speaks louder than any written words

[gary soo]

Hi
I am also Malaysian but lived here since 1978. I did a tour with the late Eddie Charlton back in 1987, I was the official referee for the tour. You may be too young to remember. Anyway,

[willytan]

Hi
I am also Malaysian but lived here since 1978. I did a tour with the late Eddie Charlton back in 1987, I was the official referee for the tour. You may be too young to remember. Anyway,

Who are you referring to?

[Freddie Ng]

What's that gotta do with this thread ??

[cally]

Strange thread this is turning into eh......

[wannabenumb]

The point of this thread was to discuss the pro's and con's of the O'min cue
vs your life story of what a great player you say you are.

" Your not afraid of anything" Well good for you.

Who cares that you are a century guy or a coach, what does that have to
do with the O'min cue or what cues other people use that you can beat, Gee good for you!

Like I said Ronnie better look out when in S'pore.

I miss interpreted your so call 'watch out and i apologize for that. Yup, Ronnie better look out man! Saying what a great player i am was part of the humour too. What life story? I don't think my life story can be relate in just one post, even if i typed for 3days & 3nights might not be able to complete.

I don't care who thinks or cares whether im a good player or not, i just got a kick when saying all that and it makes me feel high. You can don't bother about me, think it's fine. As i said, question my level of english instead.



What pro and cons? You played well with it its pro, played badly its cons.

[wannabenumb]

[QUOTE=willytan;475548]Hi bro,
Action speaks louder than words.. true! But how to show my action then?
Cues that i've tried like Master, H&O and JP all plays well except for china made ones.
Upcoming ranking tourney held at east coast park? Let me tell you bro its this sunday which is 21st march at 10am, my friend and i is taking part so see you there ya!

[bob1]

I miss interpreted your so call 'watch out and i apologize for that. Yup, Ronnie better look out man! Saying what a great player i am was part of the humour too. What life story? I don't think my life story can be relate in just one post, even if i typed for 3days & 3nights might not be able to complete.

I don't care who thinks or cares whether im a good player or not, i just got a kick when saying all that and it makes me feel high. You can don't bother about me, think it's fine. As i said, question my level of english instead.



What pro and cons? You played well with it its pro, played badly its cons.

The one thing that you and I can agree on is that we both don't understand
each other.

As I said the orginal point of this thread was what people thought about
the qualitity of the O'min cue, pro's and con's meaning for example you
might like the feel of the cue pro ,vs finish which might not be as good or
not to your own likeing , that would be a con.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR PLAYING ABILITY. Meaning that you
might love a cue in every aspect but still not play always at your best, not
because of the cue but the persons own talent. You yourself stated that
in your first post on this that you could beat anyone with all those expensive
English cues because you say you are just a better player. Its not the cue
but the players you maybe playing. From the sounds of it you think you
could beat anyone with a branch. As was suggested go over to England
and play, you will find alot of century guy's who I am sure will give you
a run for your money.

I meant your life story in snooker, Although I am quite sure you could spend
3 days and nights writing and talking about yourself.

The bottom line and back to the topic I own Parris cue's and a TW, I prefer
the O'min cue because of the air-lock joint, and the shaft is a very good
wood, ash, especially for it's price.

Can anyone out there let me know what kind of joint MW has I have heard
it is a type of air-lock joint, never played with a MW.

If I get any information from anyone on the MW appreciated, but I won't
have anything further to state about wannabenumb, he's probably at his
local club beating everyone! What I suggest he does is start his own thread
about himself, he seems to have no problem talking about himself.

Oh I forgot he is just trying to be funny?

[jrc750]

.....Can anyone out there let me know what kind of joint MW has I have heard it is a type of air-lock joint, never played with a MW.

If I get any information from anyone on the MW appreciated....

Have a look at this mate

http://www.handmadecues.com/cues/21-airtwist.htm

[wannabenumb]

The one thing that you and I can agree on is that we both don't understand
each other.

As I said the orginal point of this thread was what people thought about
the qualitity of the O'min cue, pro's and con's meaning for example you
might like the feel of the cue pro ,vs finish which might not be as good or
not to your own likeing , that would be a con.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR PLAYING ABILITY. Meaning that you
might love a cue in every aspect but still not play always at your best, not
because of the cue but the persons own talent. You yourself stated that
in your first post on this that you could beat anyone with all those expensive
English cues because you say you are just a better player. Its not the cue
but the players you maybe playing. From the sounds of it you think you
could beat anyone with a branch. As was suggested go over to England
and play, you will find alot of century guy's who I am sure will give you
a run for your money.

I meant your life story in snooker, Although I am quite sure you could spend
3 days and nights writing and talking about yourself.

The bottom line and back to the topic I own Parris cue's and a TW, I prefer
the O'min cue because of the air-lock joint, and the shaft is a very good
wood, ash, especially for it's price.

Can anyone out there let me know what kind of joint MW has I have heard
it is a type of air-lock joint, never played with a MW.

If I get any information from anyone on the MW appreciated, but I won't
have anything further to state about wannabenumb, he's probably at his
local club beating everyone! What I suggest he does is start his own thread
about himself, he seems to have no problem talking about himself.

Oh I forgot he is just trying to be funny?

We definately don't understand each other you ain't my wife nor girlfriend, who knows we both may be in love or became best buddy in the future! BUT' beri the unfortunately, i won't bother to consider as your such an implausable freak. I've repeated a sooo many times that i luv my O'min cue, how many times must i repeat this again, please tell me now ya! Want me to type in chinese characters is it, or you prefer Arabic?

Without the help of a search party to help me out, i took 3 painful hours carefully looking, seeing, touch, knocked, feel, stroke, bent, caress and even roll cue from left to right on table, still there wasn't any cons founded on my
current hO'le ME cue "Opss;'O'min maple cue". bob1, Thats the last time im saying this. Nothing to do with playing ability than play what snooker and own what good cue? Thus it certainly does triggers me to think of alternatives ball games without having needs of using cues, what about marbles or any of those two balls thats quite popular to most. I've SAID before and saying it NOW again, I LOVE TO ADD HUMOUR(not disrespect). IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT JUST IGNORE WHATEVER that I had SUNG AND GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE ;sorry your post". Ultimately, that's my view and you surely have yours too, right bob1?

ENGLAND" is the place i've been long wishing to visit since young even till now. Going there definately makes a run for your money, never will be mine clever you! i'l definately be there if you pays for my air tickets to make a walk for my money! How.." moreover, you'll be able to see in real life what a good snooker player is all about! Beating anyone is a piece of cake for me
da! I may be ignorant in cues and such but not till the extend of not knowing there's always someone betta out there, let alone mentioning 'England, CHINA alone can anytime outnumbered the amount of 147 snookies if you where to compares, centurys is nothing there. Think i'l try go beat Ding Ding Huay first before your HorneyO'solittle.

Your interested in my snooker life story or me? Not only i can type 3days and night about myself, i can talk over phone with you for 3days and nights if your interested. Best thing that'' ever happens is that you'll be here by my side, we can do "more"... rather than just talking about you and your wannabenumb!

Right so.. after asking me so much questions and chatting with me you've reach your bottom line at last, i pressumed that's the end, anyway i would welcome any of your top line too, cheers bob2!!!
So my bottom line and back to the topic just like you and assuming you'll like it to be... I've never owned any JP cues and H & 0, I prefer my O'min cue not unlike you do, instead its my only cue and because of the one piece maple without any anti-hijack joint, and my maple shaft looks good but even gooder after i've sanded dirt off and feed it multiples times with different types of oil!! Last but not least, because i can't afford the 2 cues mentioned that's the main reason why i have comments for O'min cue. Like you bob1 it's concerns about the price. Mine's better price than yours for sure!

MW has got these little catoon animinated clips on air lock-joints which i personally found it interesting, just search and memorised it and go tell all your friends bout it, i sincerely prayed that you can comprehend it with ease. Unlike what you had did to my post, well im always wiling to guide you through on what is what and what is not really what you really want to know as what i said.

Yeah, thread about myself 'YES PLEASE... Will you be the first one to come in asking me questions, "hoped not" as i deemed your comprehension failed terriblly. I've got no problem talking about myself and talking cock's is many the gooder; "unless im those typical type of shy and girly type of guys!
So, are you jealous that i can beat all players in my club? You wanna join in the got beaten list? Come at your own risk, you may break your cue and got fustrated just by the look of ME! Definately it won't materialize, im too pro a player for you anyway. Well, im actually quite curious if anyone supports bob's idea on starting a tread on wannabenumb?

Yes, i love to be funny and don't even need to try, and you can always loves to hate me.
I'll love you in anyway! Will ya?


Best regards,
I wannabenumb