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using raw linseed oil
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Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair
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Originally Posted by Lez View Post
Cold pressed flaxseed oils the best but use sparingly and allow to dry, I’ve had the same cue for 36 years x, doesn’t matter how expensive a cue is, Stephen Hendrys cue was crap and it’s the last cue you would pick at a snooker club but he won 7 world titles with it
my closest friend spent ?500 on a custom cue but he’s still can’t string a 30 together bless him.
anyway cold pressed flaxseed oil xcxx
If I lined up a dozen boiled linseed oils and a dozen raw including cold pressed (flax seed oil) , double boiled etc they don't all react exactly the same so you have to find the best method for each in my humble opinion.
You can also mix if you like chemical driven oils in there and have regularly used 1/3 tung, 1/3 boiled linseed oil and 1/3 white spirit and then add 20% volume of white spirit to aid drying times.
Although most swear against it I have had great results with cold pressed linseed oil oil when thin coats are used and it will dry at a reasonable rate. I understand that many guys will say it might look dry but it can take a month but this is arguable for some chemically driven finishing linseed oils and I have had many long debates with the scientific department at Liberon on this very thing as you would think that when the molecular structure changes and all the white spirit has evaporated then the oil would be 100% dry, not always the case.
You would also feel on the converse to this that any raw or cold pressed linseed oil doesn't have a cat's chance in hell of drying in anything less than a month as it doesn't contain any driers, not always the case as it depends on where it is stored to dry but more importantly the thickness of the coat.
Personally I love a decent linseed oil mix on the shaft as you can get it really smooth under all conditions so it copes with hot clubs and a decent couple of layers on the butt, I then like to follow the butt up with either an oil/wax mix or just a wax.
Depending on the grade of wax you use (eg filtered beeswax or T1 Carnuba) this will also dictate how sticky the butt will be and how deep the shine.
Personally I prefer an mixed and and mixed wax potion which is a little involved and if you don't get the mixing temperatures just right there's a decent chance you will reach the flammability limits of some of the ingredients and then if you hit the flash point you'll be on your way t the hospital. That aside, it works well.
I can put a thin coat of the oil/wax mix on a butt and then cut it back with 0000 steel wool and build the layers up to a deep grippy shine.
I've spent more time than I care to remember on mixes and grain fillers.
I think the problem is there are so many opinions on what is right and what is wrong and I can say from personal experience that even the larger manufacturers don't get it right and there are many products so that just don't do what they say on the can/tin.
You just have to give them a go and see.
I haven't even mentioned woods that have their own natural oils like Macassar as then we would be in a whole world of hurt lol.
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Originally Posted by vmax View Post
Most blended finishing oils have a tung oil base with small amounts of other oils added to it. Pure tung oil is a bitch to keep as it goes hard when exposed to air, a good thing in itself when applied to wood but the air in the top of the bottle is enough to harden it. If you buy any then keep it in a squeezy bottle with the air squeezed out before screwing on the cap. Lesson learned the hard way, wasted about two litres of the stuff a couple of years ago
Agreed, tung doesn't like air.
I was given a good tip and that was when you've had the top off the bottle and ready to screw it back on again, breath in and wait and then breath out into your bottle as it will then be nitrogen, it seems to have worked for me.
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I've just bought some danish oil by Parr's who only deal with natural wood finishes. Says on the bottle that it's a natural organic, food safe polymerised linseed oil with no solvents or metal driers, VOC free. Polymerised means that it's been properly heat treated (boiled) to change the structure of the molecules to allow it to dry. Fourteen quid for two 500 ml bottles, half price off ebay from a bloke who ordered too much for a job, bargainSpeak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair
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Originally Posted by vmax View PostI've just bought some danish oil by Parr's who only deal with natural wood finishes. Says on the bottle that it's a natural organic, food safe polymerised linseed oil with no solvents or metal driers, VOC free. Polymerised means that it's been properly heat treated (boiled) to change the structure of the molecules to allow it to dry. Fourteen quid for two 500 ml bottles, half price off ebay from a bloke who ordered too much for a job, bargain
I find if I burnish it a little even when putting it on it helps drying if using a natural raw but boiled linseed oil. So much on the market!!
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[QUOTE=DeanH;n355350]Originally Posted by hanchi View PostI need your help about using linseed oil, i applied it on my cue yesterday,
i left it for the night, i dry it using a dry cloth, then a wet & dry cloth,
till it seems completely dry,
but after a while it feels oily again, is there any thing i've done wrong or is it normal.
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Here is some instructions from John Parris' website:
"Occasionally, (3-6 months depending on the amount you play) treat the cue with raw linsead oil. Wipe cue down with a damp cloth and dry. (If cue is very dirty, mild detergent can be used) do not use to much water or this can cause the cue to swell. Apply oil onto cue with a cloth or paper towel, leave overnight to soak in, buff cue with a clean cloth until smooth and dry and no residue is visible on clean cloth. Then wipe with damp cloth and dry and buff.
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I think what you are getting is quite natural, it cane take days for my cue to feel just right of I have re-oiled it. As raw linseed oil does not have any artificial dryers in it (like the boiled type, which are bad for the cue) the natural drying time can seem long.
After the initial oiling and drying time, I do use the damp cloth and then dry and buff. But if any further buffing is required I do not use the damp cloth again, only dry buffing.
Patience and buffing dry should do the trick.
All the best
DeanH
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