Need advice from players on what to look for in a cue

[-Blade-]

Last year I brought a cue to play pool with, however I was fairly new to the game but have come on leaps and bounds since then. That time I made the naive decision of letting my dad buy the cue of the club manager, and since then I had a basic cue that I have grown out of in terms of ability. Now I am trying to do masse shots and it's a waste of time trying to do it with my cue. I have played with small-tipped snooker cues (not sure what size tip) and the generation of spin is effortless.

Thus I have only just started looking around for cues and I do not know much about what to look for. Though I play UK 8 ball pool only, I don't know what features I need (apart from an extension because sometimes I am stretching) so I do not know what to look for when buying so I am browsing for fun (like trying www.cuewizard.com lol).

1) What is a splice and how does it effect the quality of the cue? What are the different types and how do they effect the cue?

2) Does playing with a snooker cue or a small tip cue mean it would be a bad thing to hit balls hard, such as when a lot of power is needed - high draw shots, breaks, etc. Would I have to get a seperate break cue? Snooker players don't really hit balls hard and the table's natural, yet fast, speed, take care of that.

2) I have learnt that a small tip means one can generate more spin from the cue ball but is harder to register the middle of the CB. However, does a small tip also mean the tip is a lot more delicate and shots such as masse and swerve will potentially damage the cue? Apart from chalking, what would one have to do to maintain an 8mm tip?

3) If the tip is bigger, does this mean a tip which can give less spin? Or is it all in the dome shape of the tip?

4) I am just over 6ft (tall for a 20 yr old!), so what cue length would suit me?

5) How do I know if a cue does not suit me or it is just because it is new and I need to "wear it in with practise"? This is important if I buy a cue off the internet, where choice is much more of a luxury but also where it'd be impractical to buy a cue, return it, buy another one, and so forth.

6) What is the difference between a maple and ash shaft? Does one or the other give a better performance?

7) Is there a difference in aluminium and plastic cases (the cheaper/cheapest ones)? I have heard about humidity and certain case factors effecting the cue. Can anyone shed some light on this? Does the rubbing the tip does on the case interior damage the tip? When I leave my cue in its case and in the car, which is driven everyday, and play, I see a lot of chalk marks in the case.

My budget for a pool cue is £50-100, cue alone. I will buy a new cue case and accessories (accessories won't cost much anyway).

Thanks

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all IMHO, blade:-

Last year I brought a cue to play pool with, however I was fairly new to the game but have come on leaps and bounds since then. That time I made the naive decision of letting my dad buy the cue of the club manager, and since then I had a basic cue that I have grown out of in terms of ability. Now I am trying to do masse shots and it's a waste of time trying to do it with my cue. I have played with small-tipped snooker cues (not sure what size tip) and the generation of spin is effortless.

Thus I have only just started looking around for cues and I do not know much about what to look for. Though I play UK 8 ball pool only, I don't know what features I need (apart from an extension because sometimes I am stretching) so I do not know what to look for when buying so I am browsing for fun (like trying www.cuewizard.com lol).

1) What is a splice and how does it effect the quality of the cue? What are the different types and how do they effect the cue?

too many to mention. splices and veneers are added to the butt of a cue. they dont really affect the playing of the cue at all

2) Does playing with a snooker cue or a small tip cue mean it would be a bad thing to hit balls hard?

no

Would I have to get a seperate break cue?

if its an 8mm or bigger, i wouldnt bother. i use a 6.5 mm (approx) and i break with it often

2) I have learnt that a small tip means one can generate more spin from the cue ball but is harder to register the middle of the CB.

true

does this mean mean the tip is a lot more delicate and shots such as masse and swerve will potentially damage the cue?

damage the tip, yes

Apart from chalking, what would one have to do to maintain an 8mm tip?

use the finest sand paper to sand the edge of the tip, just above the ferrule

3) If the tip is bigger, does this mean a tip which can give less spin? Or is it all in the dome shape of the tip?

the more the dome, the greater the potential for spin, until the dome becomes "silly".

the smaller the tip, the more spin you can generate, however cueing becomes much harder once you get to extremely small tips

4) I am just over 6ft (tall for a 20 yr old!), so what cue length would suit me?

58" or thereabouts. whatever feels comfortable!

5) How do I know if a cue does not suit me or it is just because it is new and I need to "wear it in with practise"? This is important if I buy a cue off the internet, where choice is much more of a luxury.

try a few different cues in a club where you can try for sale items. careful though, as every cue is different, even if its the same spec etc...

6) What is the difference between a maple and ash shaft? Does one or the other give a better performance?

both are different types of wood commonly used for cue shafts. a lot of people just choose on looks and feel, but the woods have different qualities that some people give as their reason

7) Is there a difference in aluminium and plastic cases (the cheaper/cheapest ones)? I have heard about humidity and certain case factors effecting the cue.

a good leather case, or an aluminium case is best for your cue. dont keep it for long spells in very warm or very cold places

Can anyone shed some light on this?

yes

Does the rubbing the tip does on the case interior damage the tip?

not normally, as the lining usually holds the cue safely. if youre unsure you can adapt your case.....

When I leave my cue in its case and in the car, which is driven everyday, and play, I see a lot of chalk marks in the case.

the worst place of all to leave a cue is in the boot of a car!

My budget for a pool cue is £50-100, cue alone. I will buy a new cue case and accessories (accessories won't cost much anyway).

id try something from the cue craft range. good quality, and decent prices, and they manufacture cues for other well known cuemakers which are then "re-badged"

Thanks

no probs

[-Blade-]

Thanks for those answers, they're great!

I'm sure that a cue tip that rubs inside a case does cause damage to the tip, or at least requires a lot of attention before a game after it has been in the car boot for a week. Given my parent's driving habits of braking late and heavy, it can't do the cue any favours! lol.

The problem is that at the club I play, the cues for sale are only basic ones. All the good cues are brought outside.

I have seen several cues: The Lynx customisable range (http://www.shop.uk8ball.co.uk/produc...roducts_id=288) and also:

http://www.connectstores.com/thurston/sp_35677.html
http://www.ukpool.com/products/details/1341.html

Any feedback on the quality of these cues, such as by people who own these or similar cues, is much appreciated.

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Hi Blade...some answers to your questions - hope they help

1) What is a splice and how does it effect the quality of the cue?

The splices of the cue are the points you see where the ebony/rosewood part of the butt goes into the shaft. In terms of playing quality, the splices do not affect the cue, although, I would say that in machine spliced cues (where the splices are sharp pointed), the overall quality of the cue is compromised by a reduced quality shaft....basically manufacturers save their best shafts for the more expensive hand spliced cues. In terms of overall quality, then you would say that extra splices mean extra quality because the extra work and extra wood that is required to make a multi-spliced cue means that it will cost you more money!

2) Does playing with a snooker cue or a small tip cue mean it would be a bad thing to hit balls hard, such as when a lot of power is needed - high draw shots, breaks, etc. Would I have to get a seperate break cue? Snooker players don't really hit balls hard and the table's natural, yet fast, speed, take care of that.

Most players have between an 8 and 9.5mm tip. Some break with their playing cue but it is becoming more and more common to have a seperate break cue. Obviously, repetitive stress (e.g. break off shot) on any material causes a degree of wear so you are wearing your playing cue tip by breaking off with it. However, if you achieve a good split of the balls with your playing cue then you should probably stick with it.

3) I have learnt that a small tip means one can generate more spin from the cue ball but is harder to register the middle of the CB. However, does a small tip also mean the tip is a lot more delicate and shots such as masse and swerve will potentially damage the cue? Apart from chalking, what would one have to do to maintain an 8mm tip?

A well fitted 8mm tip should allow you to play all types of shot. Adding to my response to question 2, due to the nature of a masse shot (i.e. when you are striking down on the cueball), you are placing stress on the tip. Since the action required to generate the neccessary spin onto the cueball involves the cueball sliding towards the edge of the tip during contact, you will inevitably, wear the tip down quicker if you are playing a lot of masses shots. So, my advice is to play masse shots only when they are required (not just when you want to show off in the pub!) and to regular shape and burnish your tip. Also, tips with a harder consistency such as triangle tips will last longer so you could experiment with your tip choice until you find a type that suits you best.

4) If the tip is bigger, does this mean a tip which can give less spin? Or is it all in the dome shape of the tip?

Much depends on how well you strike the cue ball and time your stroke. I know top pool players who achieve more spin with a 10mm tip than most do with an 8 mm tip. However, what I would say is that you may find it easier to generate spin with a smaller tip but I haven't seen you play. Adding to my response to question 3 - with a smaller tip, you may apply unintentional side to the cueball, especially when you are under pressure because your action may not be as smooth. Again, a lot depends on personal preference but a tip between 8 and 9mm should be about right for you.

5) I am just over 6ft (tall for a 20 yr old!), so what cue length would suit me?

Standard cue length is 57-58 ". There are players as tall as you who use cues shorter than this but I think it would be wise to go for a standard length cue.

6) How do I know if a cue does not suit me or it is just because it is new and I need to "wear it in with practise"? This is important if I buy a cue off the internet, where choice is much more of a luxury but also where it'd be impractical to buy a cue, return it, buy another one, and so forth.

I think that you need at least 4-6 weeks of practice to know whether a cue is right for you. During this time you'll experience highs and lows (hopefully more highs!)....what you must try to do during low points is to believe in and to know your own ability. Your thoughts when buying a cue should be to buy something that fits to your own game and playing ability. A new cue can improve your game but you must also apply yourself in the right way....don't expect miracles immediately but persevere and you'll find that you'll start to like a new cue once you've really got to know it plays.

7) What is the difference between a maple and ash shaft? Does one or the other give a better performance?

In appearance terms, a maple shaft is clear whilst an ash shaft has grain (you probably know this already)...my opinion is that most (but not all - and some will disagree) maple cues have a stiffer feel than ash shafts. My own cue certainly does but it is quite an old piece of wood. However, what you will find is that some maple cues are very whippy. Regardless of whether it's maple or ash, every piece of wood has it's own characteristics - my advice would be to stick to ash unless you try and like the feel of a particular maple cue.

8) Is there a difference in aluminium and plastic cases (the cheaper/cheapest ones)? I have heard about humidity and certain case factors effecting the cue. Can anyone shed some light on this? Does the rubbing the tip does on the case interior damage the tip? When I leave my cue in its case and in the car, which is driven everyday, and play, I see a lot of chalk marks in the case.

A good quality aluminium case is well padded on the interior. This padding is enough to protect your case during travel. There aren't many examples of plastic cases these days, with the exception of the long tube cases perhaps. With regards to the humidity factor, I'm really not sure which would be better but the plastic cases I know of don't have padding and so I think that an aluminium case will be your best option.

My budget for a pool cue is £50-100, cue alone. I will buy a new cue case and accessories (accessories won't cost much anyway).

There are enough good quality cues within your price range so good luck in finding one!

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[-Blade-]

Great reply. Really has given me a new understanding.

Ta!