Why pay more for an ultimate maple cue

[G30 MC]

JP Ultimate

Why do people drive nice cars and wear designer clothes Because they can At the end of the day surely everyone strives to get the best? In my eyes John Parris is the best Just my mistake ordering a maple shaft rather than an ash, Please dont jump down my throat about other cue makers, RO/TW/DC/MW/TG, Not in that order either, With what i have seen of them they look superb, Just my preferd choice is John Parris:snooker: My JP Ultimate is now withdrawn from the swap. Thanks for the intrest, George:snooker:

[cazmac1]

No ones knocking your cue george or john P, I'm simply in the market for a maple cue and was going to get it from JP and was trying to work out why I should I pay for an ultimate when I can get a special for £200 less. I'm sure the cue would play every bit as good as the ultimate. When I was down a JP last we had a chat about other cue makers and he only had good things to say about trev, not so with another cue maker on this forum.
I going to get trev to make my maple cue now. I'm sure I'll get a very good cue for a very good price.
PS
you can pull a fit bird with a nice car and cloths, don't think you can do same with a JP cue.

[trevs1]

Why do people drive nice cars and wear designer clothes Because they can At the end of the day surely everyone strives to get the best? In my eyes John Parris is the best Just my mistake ordering a maple shaft rather than an ash, Please dont jump down my throat about other cue makers, RO/TW/DC/MW/TG, Not in that order either, With what i have seen of them they look superb, Just my preferd choice is John Parris:snooker: My JP Ultimate is now withdrawn from the swap. Thanks for the intrest, George:snooker:

It isn't a bad choice Either George, he produces a top class product.

The reputation he has has been earnt, not bought, fiddled or stolen. That must tell us something for sure. when I started building cues, it Was John Parris that set the benchmark, and was the maker that I wanted to match.

These days, there are without question a number of makers who are every bit as good, but he still stands tall amongst them, and deservedly so.

[G30 MC]

JP Ultimate

Fair point cazmac1, Snooker/pulling birds/ Its all in the confidence, If your confindent at anything your always going to be onto a winner Make sure and post up pics of your cue when you get it, TWs are stunning, Would order one myself, But JP has a cue i want in stock, Only waiting time is for him to change to my spec:snooker: George

[mick 142]

Hi just thought i would have a say i got my jp ultimate last thursday number 1668 ,i can say it is the best cue i have had but yes they are a lot of money but the way i see it is if it lasts you 15 to 20 years then its worth every penny .Like i say it is the best cue i have had i have made 5 tons with it since thursday .the cue is to the exact spec i asked for even to the number of V in the shaft and where they finish at the ferule .Mick

[jrc750]

Sounds nice mick, but this is talking about maple ultimates, and why you need to pay more

[mick 142]

Ok i will keep my ash ultimate out of it then .

[warren132]

Good idea mate...lol

[G30 MC]

JP Ultimate

Ok i will keep my ash ultimate out of it then .

Post up pics fella. Always good to see a qaulity cue:snooker:

[eaoin11]

I saw one maple ultimate that did in fact have something like 20 or more distinct chevrons. The lines were wobbly but fairly evenly spaced, it was definitley the most interesting maple cue I've seen.

Apart from appearance I thought that you might be paying more for an ultimate shaft that's been seasoned for longer? I've had the impression that this can provide a better hit, but I guess you can't guarrantee that or have any way of knowing that it really has been seasoned a long time.

[iancafc]

parris charge loads for a baisic maple anyway like 270 wheres green bazie is like £195 with a bit of spliceing and same quality maple says it all

[cazmac1]

As far as I'm aware most cue makers get there wood from the same supplers.
I'm sure that JP ultimate maple is a lovely cue, but can't help feel that TW would produce a cue of comparitable quality. So I have placed an order with TW and am sure I won't be dissapointed

[Raldon]

I saw a Parris ultimate maple last weekend...it think it was nr 665.
The shaft looked and felt very good, but the splice work was rough.

[NTwoO]

After all wood is wood, its natural, it doesn't cost more to buy

Interesting statement. Wood is natural. That means that absolutely straight grain does not exist. Furthermore trees grown naturally and not in plantations are more often with an uneven grain. This means that a more stringent selection results in bigger wastage. Furthermore the stringent requirements for black/ultimate could involve more time.

Back to the question regarding the maple? I don't know. I just went to a wood merchant to get some ash and maple for my hobby cue and selecting a straight grain piece of ash does seem more difficult than finding a straight grain piece of maple.

[cazmac1]

Your correct in what you say except for the wastage part. If a shaft is not selected for an ultimate or black plate it is just made in to a stock cue.