Cue doing well on the bay

[jrc750]

Never thought this cue would reach such a high price, is it really worth it ??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=180649084305

[cueman]

No not at all. It isn't even a first edition as they were made with the reddish coloured ash, although there were some made of normal coloured ash thereafter but they soon became 2nd edition. Unless you are absolutely certain of its history and condition then I think buying cues based on a photo is dodgy to say the least.

Its just another situation of people paying over the odds based on a name or reputation but if they've got money to waste then good luck to em!

[jrc750]

To go as high as that (not that i would anyway lol) i would want the badge to be perfect, plus isn't it a bit short at 56 1/2" ?? Has it been cut down at some point maybe

[cueman]

Too short most certainly, cues back then were generally made 58", some longer, unless made to special order. Could be that the base has been banged about a bit but not enough to make it 56.5". Also the first edition cues were badged as made in Newcastle so somewhere or other the history of this cue doesn't seem right to me. Second edition is my bet, butt looks macassar to me and the badge is B&W London. As I say I'd want assurances that this was the real mccoy but then collectors aren't always the brightest if they think they are getting what they are told.

[warren132]

Here is a link that might help...

http://thecueguru.weebly.com/bw-ye-olde-ash.html

[jrc750]

Here is a link that might help...

http://thecueguru.weebly.com/bw-ye-olde-ash.html

There's quite a few variations in badge fonts there !! No wonder its difficult spotting a replica (assuming all these are genuine lol)

[grimreaper]

It went for 900 some people have more money than sense.

[cally]

Whs....^^^^^^

[JasonOwen]

There's quite a few variations in badge fonts there !! No wonder its difficult spotting a replica (assuming all these are genuine lol)

Hi, All the Ye olde ashes on that page are genuine, checked it out ages ago with Gordon Radford and Andy Hunter, who supplied some of the pics for that page.

[cazmac1]

Criminal, £900 for a bit of old wood, I better change my job

[andy carson]

the badge and the way it sits on the cue doesnt look "right" to me...

[poolqjunkie]

If it was a real one in original condition uncut with perfect badge how much do you reckon it will fetch, about 1000 GBP?

[jim evans]

ime not sure about the cues been 58in cueman i think most cues were smaller due to the fact most people were smaller in the late 1800 and early 1900 most of the old cues i have are on the small side ie 56in

[cazmac1]

Can someone explain why an old cue is worth this money, if it has some historical value and is a collectable Item I can understand but as a playing cue I don't see any value in it what so ever.

[cueman]

Can someone explain why an old cue is worth this money, if it has some historical value and is a collectable Item I can understand but as a playing cue I don't see any value in it what so ever.

Two reasons really, firstly is the very first cues were made from ash which were from a shipyard in Newcastle that was quite old and had a unique reddish colour to it, this made the cue quite collectable. And secondly and probably more so for todays collectors is it was the cue which Steve Davis used during his early career before JP salvaged it and became the cue it is today.
Can't quite see any other collectable reason, there were a few editions of the cue made so they aren't exactly as rare as some, the rarest being the reddish coloured ash cues which probably would command a price of around £1000.