Parris Price query

[Rugbyballs]

Could some one answer a question for me....
How come a plain ash/ebony 1 piece cue from Parris costs MORE and the waiting time is LESS than if I want a 3/4 join cue and some with splicing.. Like the Traditional !!
Surely it's cheaper to produce the cue you have to do less with, ie without the join and splicing..
It makes you think that they are brought in with a join and splice already done!
Is there a reason for this I'm sure I'm missing something, perhaps the plain cue comes with a better quality shaft etc ??

[throtts]

Price is affected by shaft quality, meaning the arrows/chevrons created via the grain, its more visable on the higher end range.. I use a JP Majestic which was not cheap, the arrows on it could have been so much better though. It was a gift so it's a keeper whatever and I do play well with it..

[narl]

If you're getting it made to order you're getting it made to your exact specs, also depends on how picky you are about the grain on the cue shaft. Special, Paragon and Ultimate really mainly differ no more than the ultimate spec has a more attractive grain pattern with more even grain spacing, can take time to get what the customer is after.

And no the cues aren't bought in from asia or elsewhere 90% done and finished off by Parris cues, thats always been a rumour about Parris cues and im not sure why it persists.

[Dave Walton]

I would have thought 1 piece would take longer, the reason being that a 1 piece cue the ash runs the full length of the cue, meaning more work to fit usually around 19'' splices of ebony. Whereas a 3/4 cue the ash only runs to the joint and the splice work is only around 5" long and the butt is made from a solid piece of ebony. Making it less time consuming I would have thought anyway. 3/4 cues are usually made that way although some are made as 1 piece and cut.
Hopefully one of the cue makers on the forum can shed some more light on it

[Dave Walton]

Just looked on the Parris website and it says 3/4 cues are generally made quicker than 1 piece.

[Saint Michael]

Parris Price query

Hey up geezer. Hope you've recovered from our little jaunt the other week. I sought advice on your query and it would appear the chap above is correct in what he's saying. Nice to see you other week and I'll keep you posted on the home internationals and the select match. No dates confirmed as yet. Speak soon

[cueman]

I would have thought 1 piece would take longer, the reason being that a 1 piece cue the ash runs the full length of the cue, meaning more work to fit usually around 19'' splices of ebony. Whereas a 3/4 cue the ash only runs to the joint and the splice work is only around 5" long and the butt is made from a solid piece of ebony. Making it less time consuming I would have thought anyway. 3/4 cues are usually made that way although some are made as 1 piece and cut.
Hopefully one of the cue makers on the forum can shed some more light on it

There is a misconception that JP makes each cue individually whereas what usually happens is they do batches of shafts for various ranges of cues they do.
I think it works like this. Each day there will be a certain amount of production of shafts, both 3/4 and 1 piece. Now most of these will be used for the normal Parris range of cues like the elites, classics, regals etc. The 1 piece shafts will be made specifically for the Traditional and Sterling models so these will take longer, simply because they tend to be made to order.
Now the difference here is whilst the shafts will be done by a group of workers, another group will be working on the butts, this is how the time is cut down as its not just one person working on each individual cue, however the 1 piece cues have to be done in stages simply because nobody can work on the butt splicing whilst tapering the shaft.

Also I think what happens within this manufacturing process is that any shafts that are made are then examined for their quality, and the best are put to one side for the made to measure range (special, paragon, Ultimate). As these shafts are of premium quality you aren't going to get a lot of these made due to the quality needed.

[Rugbyballs]

Parris Price query

Well that's great I appreciate that guys you ve explained it grandly, obvious I suppose lol

Hey Mike, yep all good son, bad news I could nt stay to the end but WELL happy winning and actually turning in a display I can say was near my best on the final (not really reached that in job comps before so all good)
Be good to catch up soon, let me know re the Parris and how ya get on