Stamford S1 VS John Parris Ultimate??

[Danny. C]

Stamford series 1 from 460
John Ultimate from 530

which one is better?

[Neil Taperell]

Depends totally on the individual . What's good for one may not be good for another .

Both make good quality cues .

[jrc750]

Ultimates start at £630 ???
(Or are you out of the UK and don't get charged VAT ??)

[Guy3103]

I have 2 ultimates and 1 S1 Stamford.

The Stamford is a much better cue in my hands and I can play many shots with it that don't work for me with the 2 Ultimates.

[cazmac1]

As no two cues are the same and will have a completely different hit so your the question cannot be answered. If however you rephrase the question as to who has the highest quality of work and selects best woods, including such things as splicing and finishing. You just might get some kind of answer.

[Samcheung001]

People in this forum always say whether a cue is good or bad depends on whether it suits the individual person. To quite a big extent, I agree but in my opinion, there are also some objective criteria to determine whether a cue is 'good' cue.

In particulars, the quality of wood, the taper, craftmanship, balance etc. If a cue is made by a good cue maker with all these being well mixed, I believe it would be good for most people to play with unless the subjective criteria do not suit the person like the length and weight. People also say one could get used to the cue after some playing which I agree and therefore a 'good' cue would be good for playing for most people.

On the other hand, if the objective criteria mentioned above is bad, although one might occasionally play good with such a cue but in majority, I believe it would limit your range of shots and standard of play.

[Samcheung001]

People in this forum always say whether a cue is good or bad depends on whether it suits the individual person. To quite a big extent, I agree but in my opinion, there are also some objective criteria to determine whether a cue is 'good' cue.

In particulars, the quality of wood, the taper, craftmanship, balance etc. If a cue is made by a good cue maker with all these being well mixed, I believe it would be good for most people to play with unless the subjective criteria do not suit the person like the length and weight. People also say one could get used to the cue after some playing which I agree and therefore a 'good' cue would be good for playing for most people.

On the other hand, if the objective criteria mentioned above is bad, although one might occasionally play good with such a cue but in majority, I believe it would limit your range of shots and standard of play.

[safe t boy]

A good cue is the one you play best with.

The one you forget all about and just enjoy the game with.

Doesn't matter who made it or how much it cost.

[shanerayner28]

Stamford S1 VS John Parris Ultimate??

have had cues around 500+ now am playing wiv one that cost 195 so u can get good cue at good prices but means going to try the cue out befor u buy it

[cazmac1]

have had cues around 500+ now am playing wiv one that cost 195 so u can get good cue at good prices but means going to try the cue out befor u buy it

I have to agree, I'm currently playing with a master craft cue which cost me £120 and it is a good if not better than all the other cues I've owned. However I am still purchasing an ultimate as I want to try one for myself and if I don't like it I can always sell it on.

[shanerayner28]

Stamford S1 VS John Parris Ultimate??

hav tried 3 maybe 4 ultimates and if am honest thought my paragon was better I wouldn't pay 800+ for one at all the Trevor white cues hav had hav been really good just haven't found one i really like

[Mark62]

Stamford S1 VS John Parris Ultimate??

So which is better, the Stamford series 1 or the Parris ultimate ? There's only one way to find out fiiiiiiiiiiiiight

[Guy3103]

I think it's a bit odd that the original OP stated a simple question which he was hoping to find an answer to and there was hardly anyone who answered to the point. I'm pretty sure he understand quite well that one cue is not like the other and what's good for one person might not be good for someone else... Is it that hard for someone who tried both a stamford and an ultimate to say which he thinks is a better cue... simple as that

[T.C.]

OK. Which one is better? The Mike Wooldridge Legend.

[Guy3103]

I'm positive that's a more helpful answer for the OP than all the others... at least you informed him about a 3rd top class option he should consider.