Exquisite cues?

[billabong]

If it doesn't roll straight you don't want it.

Even though all the top cue makers say rolling does not neccessarily tell you if your cue is not straight ?

I suppose everyone is entitled to use whatever method keeps them right in their own mind, but if

the top cue makers say use the rifle sighting method rather than rolling, then I'll take their advice on the matter.

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[sberry]

Or they're trying to sell you a bent cue. If you have a flat surface like a snooker table and a straight cue you should be able to roll it without the tip lifting, if it does lift and someone convinces you it's still straight, well...

[Gerry Armstrong]

Or they're trying to sell you a bent cue. If you have a flat surface like a snooker table and a straight cue you should be able to roll it without the tip lifting, if it does lift and someone convinces you it's still straight, well...

If the cue taper is not perfectly conical it won't roll straight even though the cue itself is perfectly straight.

[sberry]

If the taper isn't perfectly conical it's not a straight cue!! If the tip lifts it's not a straight cue either.

Anyway, I'm awake now so I'm off to break in a new cue I got from raymo on Friday and the first thing I will do when I get to the club is roll it on the table, if it lifts, it's obviously perfectly straight and all yours

[Gerry Armstrong]

If the taper isn't perfectly conical it's not a straight cue!! If the tip lifts it's not a straight cue either.

Anyway, I'm awake now so I'm off to break in a new cue I got from raymo on Friday and the first thing I will do when I get to the club is roll it on the table, if it lifts, it's obviously perfectly straight and all yours

I don't need a cue thanks. I have some P7 Maths books if you want to read up on Shapes as you seem to be struggling with some of the basics.

[billabong]

If the taper isn't perfectly conical it's not a straight cue!! If the tip lifts it's not a straight cue either.

Anyway, I'm awake now so I'm off to break in a new cue I got from raymo on Friday and the first thing I will do when I get to the club is roll it on the table, if it lifts, it's obviously perfectly straight and all yours

Have you been talking to "cue_seeker" ?

Have a read through the linked thread, and consider the experience of the posters in the thread. .

http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...e+straightness

Then ask Mike Wooldridge why you don't check it by rolling , then ask John Parris , etc etc

I don't think they would risk their rep ( esp Mike ) by passing off a peter Sellars pink panther cue

as straight,



Ultimately though in my experience, some people have an idea in their head, that, even if everyone in the world told

them was wrong, they still wouldn't change their stance . . each to their own I think.

P.S. Was that offer of Raymond's cue , if it didn't roll flat on the table, for me , or for Mr Armstrong ?

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[Ryanharper]

Exquisite cues?

The splicing on his cues are none too clever

[eaoin11]

Or they're trying to sell you a bent cue. If you have a flat surface like a snooker table and a straight cue you should be able to roll it without the tip lifting, if it does lift and someone convinces you it's still straight, well...

A straight cue can lift if the taper is convex because it will pivot and (for handmade and hand finished cues) the cross section of the shaft won't be absolutely 100% circular.

On the other hand a shaft that is concave will roll perfectly on the tip and some part of the shaft halfway down with a gap in between that doesn't touch the cloth. This kind of taper can conceal a slight bend if you only watch the tip. The way to spot a bend here is to watch from the side while rolling it and see if the gap between the shaft and the cloth varies. This is easiest to see on American cue shafts with a pro taper but also fairly common on modern snooker cues.

Bottom line for me though is that if you can't see a bend easily after sighting carefully down each splice then you don't have to worry because you can play well even with a noticeably bent cue.

[thelongbomber]

I have recently purchased 3 GBL cues, several old Powerglide, Joe Davis and other old makers cues, owned several Tom Gauthier cues, owned several old Dufferin and low end cues over the last 15 years playing the game. I think Raymo's cues are excellent and even Kevin Deroo suggests it's better quality wood than the GBL which I own. OK, Raymo doesn't always come out with 5 straight even arrows like you might get with an Ultimate, but the cue work, finishing, and most of all the shaft wood is excellent. Raymo could probably get better at having perfect inlays and points lining up - The GBL I have is almost too perfect - but that's a marginal detail. If you get a chance to purchase a Raymo cue that's within your specs, don't hesitate.

[les147]

I have asked Raymo to quote me on a few occasions and he said he would get back to me but never did! so i didn't bother any more

[raymo147]

That's cause I'm not taking orders Les I've tried to explain it
many a times that I don't want the pressure of it!
It's difficult to find specific shafts people want with arrows
and stuff!
My emails are chocka block sorry if I may not have replied!

[jrc750]

If the taper isn't perfectly conical it's not a straight cue!! If the tip lifts it's not a straight cue either.

Anyway, I'm awake now so I'm off to break in a new cue I got from raymo on Friday and the first thing I will do when I get to the club is roll it on the table, if it lifts, it's obviously perfectly straight and all yours

You havn't got a clue mate

[culraven]

I must admit i find rolling it on the table the best way of finding out if the cue is warped, anything above 2mm and its definitely a bent cue. The argument around the taper causing a slight lift, anything above 2mm surely means the cue is not as straight as it could be and there fore bent, which should not be confused with warped.

[frazz]

Tables are made of 5 seperate slates bolted together, not every slate os going to perfectly align, slates can bevel also which I have seen so I wouldn't take rolling a cue along the slates as a sure fire way of finding a cue straight or not

[Jmoinen]

Ladies and gents,

this thread was supposed to be discussing of raymo147s cues, rather than debating how to check a cue for bends or warps

I realize I was the one who brought up the subject, thank you all for your wisdoms, but this thread has kind of gone off topic, so why don't we keep it as originally intended!

Cheers

Joel