parris uneven splices

[dmk35]

Ok i knew someone would comment about the cue not playing any better with even splices and its true,i wanted my cue to be unique looking.A friend of mine has a Peradon King cue on which the splices are absolutely perfect and even so naturally i would expect a top cue maker like John Parris to be able to achieve the same standard,i also have a friend who has a Tony Glover cue with 4 splices of burr wood all perfect and level.If we were'nt interested how our cues look we would all be using cues with plain ebony or rosewood butts.

[buddfridgeman]

HI, for what its worth I think your right, it might not play any better with even splices , but it would look much better..after all we all replace things cause they dont look at there best ..jeans cars ect. why should your cue be any different ?..and I bet you dont want to change.
I have had a few parris cues and I do always ask john to make sure all the spices are even , he has managed this each time I have asked so it can be done no probs.
From what I now of john's customer service I would think that if you take the time to express what you want and expect he will deliver , I know its after the event now but I would still make the call, he may decide to put thing right for you..good luck.

[dmk35]

I honestly thought that even splices on a top end handmade cue would go without saying but maybe i should have stated that when i sent the cue to him.

[throtts]

I have a JP Majestic and the splices on it are slightly out too.

[Stupree]

That is a shame and you are right to expect higher quality craftsmanship from such a well reputed cue maker. As the volume of orders and cues produced have increased it appears the odd one is slipping through.

It is a fair point that it doesn't affect the playability of the cue, nor does a small dent affect performance in a car, however it does impact on the way we feel about the item and will affect the way others feel about the item should you try to sell.

In short you paid the amount that many pay for an entire cue in having a small aesthetic change made and the work has not been completed to the expected standard. Send the cue back to Parris Cues for the poor work to be rectified, he should carry this out without quibble.

[jim evans]

Theyve been closed the last week or more with Christmas etc, not open again till tomorrow.


Can any cuemaker comment on how hard it is to get splices and veneers the same length at the top? From a laymans point of view it would seem to be a case of accurate measurement, but there may be more to it?

its not easy ,ok with veneers to level but first splicing i find difficult

[Bigmeek]

look in the mirror - bang - you didn't see it

What the hell does this mean? Wish people wouldn't post crap.

[vmax4steve]

Ok i knew someone would comment about the cue not playing any better with even splices and its true,i wanted my cue to be unique looking.A friend of mine has a Peradon King cue on which the splices are absolutely perfect and even so naturally i would expect a top cue maker like John Parris to be able to achieve the same standard,i also have a friend who has a Tony Glover cue with 4 splices of burr wood all perfect and level.If we were'nt interested how our cues look we would all be using cues with plain ebony or rosewood butts.

It's a lot easier for machine made cues to have even splicing as all the planing is CNC controlled. A hand made item is unique and therefore differs from one mass produced.
A snooker cue is a tool after all not a handbag. Far too many of you lot are after something exclusive and expensive simply to look good down the club rather than trusting in the cue you learnt with.
I've seen it in my own club where a young lad who's a good player has recently got himself a Trevor White cue and a swanky case to go with it but he isn't a better player because of it, yet he does have a bit of an ego now where before he didn't.
Says it all really.

As someone who has just started having a go at making cues I must say that getting splices absolutely spot on is very difficult but really rather unneccessary. I have just made a couple of one piece ash cues with full wenge butts and am quite pleased with how they play. One has the splices very close to even while the other doesn't but both cues play very well.
I can only get better I suppose and there is probably a method that I've yet to find that gets the splicing consistantly even, but I've cracked how to make a cue and it's just fine tuning from now on for that quality finish that my personal standard demands.

[sanman]

I totally disagree with this. The equation is simple. What customer wants customer gets. Get it. After all 160 quid for a few splices isnt a little amount. And that being said id MW. TW. TG GBL cues can get it rights whats johns excuse. Overated. In my opinion and that is just my opinion. For the prices he charges one whould expect nothing but perfection

It's a lot easier for machine made cues to have even splicing as all the planing is CNC controlled. A hand made item is unique and therefore differs from one mass produced.
A snooker cue is a tool after all not a handbag. Far too many of you lot are after something exclusive and expensive simply to look good down the club rather than trusting in the cue you learnt with.
I've seen it in my own club where a young lad who's a good player has recently got himself a Trevor White cue and a swanky case to go with it but he isn't a better player because of it, yet he does have a bit of an ego now where before he didn't.
Says it all really.

As someone who has just started having a go at making cues I must say that getting splices absolutely spot on is very difficult but really rather unneccessary. I have just made a couple of one piece ash cues with full wenge butts and am quite pleased with how they play. One has the splices very close to even while the other doesn't but both cues play very well.
I can only get better I suppose and there is probably a method that I've yet to find that gets the splicing consistantly even, but I've cracked how to make a cue and it's just fine tuning from now on for that quality finish that my personal standard demands.

[sootyvrs]

As with everything.... high expectations can all to easily lead to disappointments!

I'm in no doubt that getting splices even is an difficult art but one you would expect top cue makers to get right! Let's face it, that's why some pay top dollar for cues and also for work done! If this was not the case then why not just take your cue to any wood worker and get uneven splices for £20 instead of £160?

Yes it's true that decorative stuff doesn't make a cue any better to play with (prime example is John Spencer and Hendrys old cues) but in all walks of life there are always premium products with premium prices (law of diminishing returns apply) and there must be a reason why higher quality of craftsmanship is expected as a norm!

I think it's well known now that Parris has a few that work on his cues and perhaps it was the trainee that worked on this one and as it was over the xmas period, perhaps the quality control guy was on holiday? Let's hope you get something successfully resolved to your satisfaction.

[SouthPaw]

I have to agree that unfortunately John Parris is ruining his own brand with sub standard workmanship from some of his cue makers! I'd say if other top UK cue-makers done that on a new cue (Robin Cook, MW etc) it'd more than likely be in the "sin bin" never mind a re-splicing job... I'd definitely send it back to be done right and expect a free gift =p

On the other hand i can see peoples views on cosmetically it doesn't matter, but when your paying top money you expect nothing but the best imo!

[throtts]

Of course the splicers should match up.

Southpaw, I agree, we are obviously not sending the cues back going by this thread. If we did he would do something about it. And under the TC you can send it back and get another cue or a credit note, no refunds though..

[throtts]

That is a shame and you are right to expect higher quality craftsmanship from such a well reputed cue maker. As the volume of orders and cues produced have increased it appears the odd one is slipping through.

It is a fair point that it doesn't affect the playability of the cue, nor does a small dent affect performance in a car, however it does impact on the way we feel about the item and will affect the way others feel about the item should you try to sell.

In short you paid the amount that many pay for an entire cue in having a small aesthetic change made and the work has not been completed to the expected standard. Send the cue back to Parris Cues for the poor work to be rectified, he should carry this out without quibble.

Had my cue almost a year now , so sod it. If I was too order again and it did happen again, then yes, I would be on there case about it.

He is obviously not making the cues anymore, other than if it goes on the pro tour, which stinks as well. If I purchase another stick I think I'll try TW.

[jd147]

Should have sent your cue to Mike Wooldridge he prides himself on producing exact splicing tips/fingers - You could also have bought an O Min cue WITH perfect splicing tips for 160 quid!

[mchpddl1]

making the splices even is not difficult at all.

There is just no demand for even splicing, perhaps most cues sell to asia and customers there do no bother with uneven splicing at all (or not noticing at all).