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[golferson123]

we all make mistakes,that does not make us bad people!just wrong.

[danam1]

we all make mistakes,that does not make us bad people!just wrong.

I totally agree.

[Andy Travis]

All the apologies via paypal to me will now be refunded, thanks all

[laverda]

It goes without saying but anyone who feels they have something of interest to say or personal knowledge regarding the issue at hand is welcome to email me with their side of the story.

wtqanda at gmail dot com
Cheers,
Mick

[prince07799]

Ive been using a cue I picked up from andy's house this year ,the first cue from( My latest work thread) and its mint, well made solid playin cue, when the funds permit ill be orderin another from him and he can splice it any way he want's

[eaoin11]

I think what he did and said was both stupid from a business point of view and largely wrong in that I don't think anybody mentioned actually makes all their cues like this, he also drops me in it after i invest a lot of money with him by expecting me to sell cues at a loss!! but crispian is a decent guy and a decent craftsman who has some serious family issues just now that I suspect are clouding his judgement.

I don't think that matters ADR. The fact that any imports at all have been slipped in among the handmades makes it dodgy to the people who care. I think the issue has been sitting there just under the surface for so long that these threads were needed to give the TSF operators some credibility.

[ADR147]

I don't think that matters ADR. The fact that any imports at all have been slipped in among the handmades makes it dodgy to the people who care. I think the issue has been sitting there just under the surface for so long that these threads were needed to give the TSF operators some credibility.

ummm - from a personal point of view i don't think the issue is anywhere near as prevalent as people appear to think, to my knowledge there is only actually one person doing this on any scale and he does not use the forum at all.

[billabong]

ummm - from a personal point of view i don't think the issue is anywhere near as prevalent as people appear to think, to my knowledge there is only actually one person doing this on any scale and he does not use the forum at all.

Did he used to be in partnership with someone else ?

[ADR147]

i don't really agree with naming names - my job is to buy cues and sell them at a profit whoever makes them and however!

[golferson123]

Did he used to be in partnership with someone else ?

here we go!

[billabong]

ummm - from a personal point of view i don't think the issue is anywhere near as prevalent as people appear to think, to my knowledge there is only actually one person doing this on any scale and he does not use the forum at all.

i don't really agree with naming names - my job is to buy cues and sell them at a profit whoever makes them and however!

So if you were to have in stock, a cue "made" by this 1 x cuemaker, would you tell any potential buyer about his sourcing of cues, if asked directly ?

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[ADR147]

So if you were to have in stock, a cue "made" by this 1 x cuemaker, would you tell any potential buyer about his sourcing of cues, if asked directly ?

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of course - but equally would i like to commit my personal suspicions as a fact, no thanks!

you see some of the people who have been accused on this forum while i was away on holiday I do know for a fact are either not remotely guilty or largely not guilty and that many of the assumptions people have made are definitely wrong, however it is not my place to police the entire cue making world!

[billabong]

of course - but equally would i like to commit my personal suspicions as a fact, no thanks!

you see some of the people who have been accused on this forum while i was away on holiday I do know for a fact are either not remotely guilty or largely not guilty and that many of the assumptions people have made are definitely wrong, however it is not my place to police the entire cue making world!

Of course it's not.

I suppose it goes back to the customer asking the correct questions, and getting something in writing to protect himself
if there is any future revelations that surface as fact . .

[ADR147]

Of course it's not.

I suppose it goes back to the customer asking the correct questions, and getting something in writing to protect himself
if there is any future revelations that surface as fact . .

in the end it will sort itself one way or the other, either all the cues will be imported or basically none will. economically importing cue blanks is actually rather an expensive thing to do compared with splicing them yourself, for sure mastercraft and andy travis cues would not be so cheap if they were imported!

for me the thing that matters is the end product and that people get a good cue at a fair price, i am not entirely sure the origins are so vital, i still think the idea that you must plane the wood down by hand is utter madness, but equally importing cues that are finished jointed and badged ready to go and selling as made in the uk is not right either so somewhere a balance needs to be achieved.

there are lots of revelations out there ready to be exposed like every industry this one has it's skeletons!

hint: how long do you think it actually takes to make a cue?

[prince07799]

in the end it will sort itself one way or the other, either all the cues will be imported or basically none will. economically importing cue blanks is actually rather an expensive thing to do compared with splicing them yourself, for sure mastercraft and andy travis cues would not be so cheap if they were imported!

for me the thing that matters is the end product and that people get a good cue at a fair price, i am not entirely sure the origins are so vital, i still think the idea that you must plane the wood down by hand is utter madness, but equally importing cues that are finished jointed and badged ready to go and selling as made in the uk is not right either so somewhere a balance needs to be achieved.

there are lots of revelations out there ready to be exposed like every industry this one has it's skeletons!

hint: how long do you think it actually takes to make a cue?

With those that want a perfect lookin cue and at a price, Andrew is right, if it plays good and looks the part what the problem as long as you know what your buyin and not payin over the odd's