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  • #61
    Originally Posted by jrc750 View Post
    I have read on here many times that boiled shouldn't be used ??
    Ohh well learn something new (or different ) every day
    that's what happens if you listen to people on forums...

    the internet is a huge resource, and you will quickly find the concensus amongst professional woodworkers/finishers is, and always has been, raw is not suitable for finishing.
    The Cuefather.

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    • #62
      Originally Posted by jrc750 View Post
      Originally Posted by MikeWooldridge View Post
      that's why you can't get a finish. raw linseed should never be used as a finish.

      google it and you'll find thousands of threads from instrument building to boat building and all sorts that all say the same. boiled linseed should be used, not raw, if trying to actually create a finish.
      I have read on here many times that boiled shouldn't be used ??
      Ohh well learn something new (or different ) every day
      Id read exactly the same things, the driers damage the wood etc, think about it logically though and it wouldn't be sold as wood treatment if it was bad for wood. I still like my mix of raw linseed and tung oil but boiled linseed is pretty good just as it is
      Last edited by Dave Walton; 24 September 2013, 03:08 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally Posted by Dave Walton View Post
        All the cues I've ever oiled with linseed have dried to a light gloss, only ended up with a matt finish from Pure Tung and Danish oil. Boiled linseed which I've only recently experimented with has given me a light gloss which needs more buffing to get a nice shine, raw though has always given a gloss finish that polishes up like glass
        When you say 'polishes up'... What are you using to polish? Buffing machine, or by hand and with what material?

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        • #64
          Originally Posted by humperdingle View Post
          Originally Posted by Dave Walton View Post
          All the cues I've ever oiled with linseed have dried to a light gloss, only ended up with a matt finish from Pure Tung and Danish oil. Boiled linseed which I've only recently experimented with has given me a light gloss which needs more buffing to get a nice shine, raw though has always given a gloss finish that polishes up like glass
          When you say 'polishes up'... What are you using to polish? Buffing machine, or by hand and with what material?
          I polish by hand, not actually sure what the cloth I use is called, I've added a pic
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          • #65
            I have always used Mr sheen

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            • #66
              Originally Posted by Dave Walton View Post
              I polish by hand, not actually sure what the cloth I use is called, I've added a pic
              Think you will find that's what is commonly known as a dishcloth! Lol
              Did you put my "1" up ?

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              • #67
                Originally Posted by Dave Walton View Post
                I polish by hand, not actually sure what the cloth I use is called, I've added a pic
                Ok, cheers... And do you not wash that cloth, i.e. it's impregnated with the oil to an extent?

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                • #68
                  Originally Posted by humperdingle View Post
                  Originally Posted by Dave Walton View Post
                  I polish by hand, not actually sure what the cloth I use is called, I've added a pic
                  Ok, cheers... And do you not wash that cloth, i.e. it's impregnated with the oil to an extent?
                  Got loads of them so just throw them when I'm done.

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                  • #69
                    Originally Posted by danam1 View Post
                    Originally Posted by Dave Walton View Post
                    I polish by hand, not actually sure what the cloth I use is called, I've added a pic
                    Think you will find that's what is commonly known as a dishcloth! Lol
                    Could well be, my dad gave me a big bag of them, was gonna use them for applying oil but found they're great for polishing cues

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                    • #70
                      :abnormal:Moron , Clown !!! Who cares ! Boiled or Raw linseed oil is only used as a lubricant to whatever final finish you prefer ? Of course I am talking shellac / French polish . I make my own using a recipe I have used for over thirty years , its very hard and durable and can be made to shine like a mirror or be as matt as you like !! But will protect the wood as long as you can see to play snooker !! I have never used linseed to polish a grand piano or a valuable Dining table as it doesn't polish very well on its own . No polisher could ever describe the proportions of polish and linseed to create a perfect finish . There are many books on the subject but Practice makes perfect ! :abnormal:

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                      • #71
                        closing time again!
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                        • #72
                          PS If anybody wants to see some great finishes look at Gunsmiths , Gunstock finishers and weep lol

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                          • #73
                            !!!! Just the kind of comment I have come to expect !!!!

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                            • #74
                              Originally Posted by tomeestrings View Post
                              PS If anybody wants to see some great finishes look at Gunsmiths , Gunstock finishers and weep lol
                              agreed. i've read they use truoil quite a lot, which i believe is a mix of tung, oil varnish and thinners
                              The Cuefather.

                              info@handmadecues.com

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                              • #75
                                Originally Posted by tomeestrings View Post
                                :abnormal:Moron , Clown !!! Who cares ! Boiled or Raw linseed oil is only used as a lubricant to whatever final finish you prefer ? Of course I am talking shellac / French polish . I make my own using a recipe I have used for over thirty years , its very hard and durable and can be made to shine like a mirror or be as matt as you like !! But will protect the wood as long as you can see to play snooker !! I have never used linseed to polish a grand piano or a valuable Dining table as it doesn't polish very well on its own . No polisher could ever describe the proportions of polish and linseed to create a perfect finish . There are many books on the subject but Practice makes perfect ! :abnormal:
                                Stick to pianos, shellac as a finish on cues becomes sticky, might aswell laquer or varnish it, a piano has to look nice, a cue has to look but more importantly feel nice!

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