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    anybody heard of temco and the other one is goodman clocester the butt of the googman is really fathttps://plus.google.com/photos/100660319375940462511/albums/5913005165027595761?banner=pwa

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    Originally Posted by garysnooker View Post
    anybody heard of temco and the other one is goodman clocester the butt of the googman is really fat https://plus.google.com/photos/10066...761?banner=pwa
    J. W. Goodman's Sons, as they styled themselves, was an American company. I have one of their catalogues from 1900, which has similar designs for cue butts, although not this particular model, which might be earlier or later. I can't make out the second word on the cue – an address? They were located at Athol, Mass., and Boston in 1900, but whatever the word is, its clearly not either of these.

    I'd be interested in information on the green badge cue myself as I have one in my cue rack, although mine is not stamped with any identification and the shaft is not ash. Not sure exactly what wood it is, possibly pear, but grainless woods mostly look the same to me although I'm fairly sure its not maple. I had estimated mine as 1930's as it had a pigeon ring brass ferrule which looked original.

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    • #3
      Looks like "Clocester" on that cue

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      • #4
        Yes, it is clearer on one of the other pictures, although it doesn't help. I assume it should read "Colchester" with an "h" but there are quite a lot of Colchesters in the USA and Canada and I have no idea when Goodman might have been located there. This is one for an American expert. I don't know whether Mike Shamos is still around, but he would probably be able to advise.

        This is a bit of their history from the 1900 catalogue. They seem to have been mainly a wholesaler like Peradon were in England, although if this cue is stamped with their name it may have been one they retailed themselves:
        We wish to state that the late J. W. Goodman started the manufacture of Billiard Table Frames and Wood-work and Piano legs in 1845. Since then they have turned out over 600 tables annually, at wholesale, to the trade all over the United States and Canada.

        After Mr. Goodman's death, in 1893, his sons became managers and sole owners of the factory and of his entire business in Athol, Mass., and having so many inquiries for tables from consumers they dropped their wholesale customers in New England and have taken care of the retail trade themselves, still selling goods at wholesale outside of New England.

        Their retail trade increased so that they were compelled to open an office in the eastern part of the state, so made arrangements with Messrs. Leavitt & Yatter of 16 City Hall Avenue or 263 Washington St., Boston, Mass.

        One reason for selling direct to the trade is that so many unscrupulous firms sell goods on others' reputation and do not do justice to the manufacturer, so we took the matter in hand ourselves so the public at large would be fairly dealt with by selling strictly honest goods and standing behind same.

        Our two years of business in Boston have been so successful that we are compelled to send out this catalogue, the first one ever issued since the firm started, as our patrons want something to give to their friends and to keep for reference.

        We have at 16 City Hall Avenue, running from School Street through to Young's Hotel to Court Street, a large ware-room and work-shop, besides the largest and most complete billiard room in New England (of fourteen tables), where our customers can try our tables, examine same, and see them either in use or in pieces before they are put together.

        We also carry a full line of merchandise of every description. Orders by mail or express promptly attended to. Hoping this catalogue may be found interesting and complete, and soliciting the continuance of your patronage, we beg to remain

        Faithfully yours,

        J. W. Goodman's Sons.

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        • #5
          good find those two.
          https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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          • #6
            I must be going blind. It's stamped "Glocester" which is probably "Gloucester" with a "u" in Massachusetts, which is just up the road from their 1900 address.

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            • #7
              Actually that could be a G, but i can't see a U in there, mis stamped ??? very rare lol
              Last edited by jrc750; 17 August 2013, 03:10 PM. Reason: Revised wording

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              • #8
                more boot cues can anybody identify the cue that looks like a Riley Burwat https://plus.google.com/photos/10066...761?banner=pwa

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