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Hi Trevs,
I have just made some remarks in a different colour.
Coming from my experience.
Hope you don't mind.
What I am amazed by is the claim to have a product that does something other cues won't and can't do, when this is just not the case at all.
=>The performance of the Acuerate cues is quite remarkable. However, they don't say that their cue is the only cue that does what they say. But the whole reason why the Acuerate performs this way is patented. There might be other ways to reach this result, but I have experienced that this one really works, honestly. It is doing something different than any other cue I've tried. And I'm totally honest here
It's this type of 'slighty' false information that is annoying, as anyone could claim anything to promote their product on the back of a fortunate opportunity like Hendry deciding to use this cue.If a player like Hendry uses a certain brand, then this is no doubt a big advantage. But, the Acuerate cues have been around for a couple of years now, and i have heard very positive coments from lots of players why use them. But Acuerate has made their claims and launched their products long before Hendry decided to use one too.
I can catagorically guarantee anyone, that these cues 'HAVE TO BE MADE'
to 'CERTAIN TOLERANCES' to be able to behave in the way the 'might'.
I agree with you. But that's exactly what Acuerate is all about. Their cues are obviously made within certain tolerances but that's probably why they work. There's nothing wrong with that. A diesel engine will consume less, because it's designed to run on diesel in stead of petrol, etc... I don't see anything wrong with that
Any player that may come along, stating exact dimensions in a detailed way for one of these Acuerate cues to be built, could totally destroy their ability to minimise throw. This is because certain criteria has to be followed to enable any cue to behave in a reliable fashion......FACT.
That's not entirely true. You can choose length, tip size. Even though they offer 2 standard tip sizes, you can still order different tip sizes and they also have a dramatically reduced throw. So they have got a concept their which allows a wide spread variaty of specifications. Obviously, when you produce a 25 oz cue with a 13mm tip, we all know this will throw the cue ball onto the table next to you
If this criteria is not followed due to the specification and instruction of a customers requirements, the cue will 'NOT' be as they claim.....FACT.
as said in the previous reply, this is not entirely true, as there are some different possibilities. Obviously, there are limits to this, but any player that can't live or cope with this, shouldn't buy one. You know that if you order a low deflection cue, that you are buying a certain spec cue.
I've attempted to explain the physical properties of cue behaviour to anyone reading this thread, when many just don't have the understanding of these differences in cues. They may be very very competent players, that I won't argue with. However, I've dealt with numerous top amateurs and professional snooker players, some of them world class in every regard, but, even they still don't know 'WHY' a cue does what it does, they just know what works for them and how to use it. So really, the fact that any player uses this or that cue is no proof that it is 'ANY' better than the next.
A cue ball will react different on different cloths in different circumstances. But a cue ball will also react differently when struck above or below centre. There's a massive difference in CB throw. The CB throws twice as much when struck below centre. That's one of the laws of physics. You're absolutaly right when you say that most players, even the top pro's have no idea what or why their cue is doing certain things. But maybe that's exactly why this Acuerate concept is often misunderstood. Because people relate it to something magical, simply because they don't fully understand what's going on with their cue or cue ball. It's indeed no proof when certain players use certain cues, that these cues are better then the rest. It just means that they are also good cues. But a cue is indeed a personal choice
I won't be posting on this thread any further, as it might make some believe I've got an agenda of some sort. Either to promote myself, or, to discredit Acuerate, when neither of these things would be true. The information I've offered or comment I've put forward has been for the interest of the viewing reader/player, and not, for any other reason.
I think people should make up their own minds on cues, but having said that, I think they should be armed with enough background knowledge to enable them to make some kind of well informed choice.
You shouldn't stop posting mate, as this is finally becoming a sensible discussion. And people need to be educated, that's for sure. people should indeed make up their own minds on cues. but we should exchange experiences here.
And Wity: I think that we all respect everyone's opinion. But please keep it civilised and polite.
Because a public forum is not a place to be rude to anyone.
What was winding me up initially is that you were slaughtering them with claiming that they give false information, tell lies,etc... Because they don't, honestly, I have really tried this cue, and it does what they say it does.
And it's not illegal/unfair trading to have a product which is different than an other product. That's what economy is all about. And everybody tries to be unique. If anyone would try to sue them, then they would only end up with a judge on a snooker table, trying a shot (probably ripping the cloth) and seeing what I saw. That the cue does exactly what they say it does.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But please, keep this a civilised discussion. There's no need to keep calling bad names to anyone. That's pointless.
Keep an open mind, as there's a lot out there yet to be discovered.
To everybody, let's keep this a polite and open discussion. That's the only way we can learn from eachother, and the only way we can ventilate our ideas.
And that's what a forum is all about, innit?
I have just made some remarks in a different colour.
Coming from my experience.
Hope you don't mind.
What I am amazed by is the claim to have a product that does something other cues won't and can't do, when this is just not the case at all.
=>The performance of the Acuerate cues is quite remarkable. However, they don't say that their cue is the only cue that does what they say. But the whole reason why the Acuerate performs this way is patented. There might be other ways to reach this result, but I have experienced that this one really works, honestly. It is doing something different than any other cue I've tried. And I'm totally honest here
It's this type of 'slighty' false information that is annoying, as anyone could claim anything to promote their product on the back of a fortunate opportunity like Hendry deciding to use this cue.If a player like Hendry uses a certain brand, then this is no doubt a big advantage. But, the Acuerate cues have been around for a couple of years now, and i have heard very positive coments from lots of players why use them. But Acuerate has made their claims and launched their products long before Hendry decided to use one too.
I can catagorically guarantee anyone, that these cues 'HAVE TO BE MADE'
to 'CERTAIN TOLERANCES' to be able to behave in the way the 'might'.
I agree with you. But that's exactly what Acuerate is all about. Their cues are obviously made within certain tolerances but that's probably why they work. There's nothing wrong with that. A diesel engine will consume less, because it's designed to run on diesel in stead of petrol, etc... I don't see anything wrong with that
Any player that may come along, stating exact dimensions in a detailed way for one of these Acuerate cues to be built, could totally destroy their ability to minimise throw. This is because certain criteria has to be followed to enable any cue to behave in a reliable fashion......FACT.
That's not entirely true. You can choose length, tip size. Even though they offer 2 standard tip sizes, you can still order different tip sizes and they also have a dramatically reduced throw. So they have got a concept their which allows a wide spread variaty of specifications. Obviously, when you produce a 25 oz cue with a 13mm tip, we all know this will throw the cue ball onto the table next to you
If this criteria is not followed due to the specification and instruction of a customers requirements, the cue will 'NOT' be as they claim.....FACT.
as said in the previous reply, this is not entirely true, as there are some different possibilities. Obviously, there are limits to this, but any player that can't live or cope with this, shouldn't buy one. You know that if you order a low deflection cue, that you are buying a certain spec cue.
I've attempted to explain the physical properties of cue behaviour to anyone reading this thread, when many just don't have the understanding of these differences in cues. They may be very very competent players, that I won't argue with. However, I've dealt with numerous top amateurs and professional snooker players, some of them world class in every regard, but, even they still don't know 'WHY' a cue does what it does, they just know what works for them and how to use it. So really, the fact that any player uses this or that cue is no proof that it is 'ANY' better than the next.
A cue ball will react different on different cloths in different circumstances. But a cue ball will also react differently when struck above or below centre. There's a massive difference in CB throw. The CB throws twice as much when struck below centre. That's one of the laws of physics. You're absolutaly right when you say that most players, even the top pro's have no idea what or why their cue is doing certain things. But maybe that's exactly why this Acuerate concept is often misunderstood. Because people relate it to something magical, simply because they don't fully understand what's going on with their cue or cue ball. It's indeed no proof when certain players use certain cues, that these cues are better then the rest. It just means that they are also good cues. But a cue is indeed a personal choice
I won't be posting on this thread any further, as it might make some believe I've got an agenda of some sort. Either to promote myself, or, to discredit Acuerate, when neither of these things would be true. The information I've offered or comment I've put forward has been for the interest of the viewing reader/player, and not, for any other reason.
I think people should make up their own minds on cues, but having said that, I think they should be armed with enough background knowledge to enable them to make some kind of well informed choice.
You shouldn't stop posting mate, as this is finally becoming a sensible discussion. And people need to be educated, that's for sure. people should indeed make up their own minds on cues. but we should exchange experiences here.
And Wity: I think that we all respect everyone's opinion. But please keep it civilised and polite.
Because a public forum is not a place to be rude to anyone.
What was winding me up initially is that you were slaughtering them with claiming that they give false information, tell lies,etc... Because they don't, honestly, I have really tried this cue, and it does what they say it does.
And it's not illegal/unfair trading to have a product which is different than an other product. That's what economy is all about. And everybody tries to be unique. If anyone would try to sue them, then they would only end up with a judge on a snooker table, trying a shot (probably ripping the cloth) and seeing what I saw. That the cue does exactly what they say it does.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But please, keep this a civilised discussion. There's no need to keep calling bad names to anyone. That's pointless.
Keep an open mind, as there's a lot out there yet to be discovered.
To everybody, let's keep this a polite and open discussion. That's the only way we can learn from eachother, and the only way we can ventilate our ideas.
And that's what a forum is all about, innit?
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