Another Willie Smith ?

[billabong]

There's another willie Smith Handspliced british record cue on ebay now :-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Willie-smi...item2c7e10313c

Just wondered, when I researched before selling my cue, cues'n'views ( Andy Hunter ? ) said the hand spliced
version was ebony with tulipwood front splice.

This one looks like it has a green veneer and a burrwood front splice.

Anyone on here got thoughts on originality ? I suppose unknown versions of cues must come up now and again ?

[perpetualboredom]

No idea about the history of this cue, it's hard to make a view without seeing it, holding it and even removing the badges if there's a doubt.

I will say don't get too caught up with what Andy wrote in articles 15 years ago.. If you speak to him he'll openly tell you that it was only his view at the time, several of the articles need updating badly - particularly the prices quoted which are often a mile out.

Andy doesn't even mention this cue in plain handspliced ebony (I don't think).. and I was contacted by a chap not that long ago who had 4-5 of them, so that's not exactly a rare cue! This is peradon made so basically any badge could end up on any cue, oddities don't worry me too much.

[DeanH]

on Andy and Gordon's site they have a version of this cue and it is burr splice with thin green veneer
http://www.thecuecollector.com/Willi...ecordsCue.html
the one on ebay appears to have a thicker veneer
maybe the difference is whether it is made by B&Ws or Peradon,?

[billabong]

on Andy and Gordon's site they have a version of this cue and it is burr splice with thin green veneer
http://www.thecuecollector.com/Willi...ecordsCue.html
the one on ebay appears to have a thicker veneer
maybe the difference is whether it is made by B&Ws or Peradon,?

Yeah, plus the one in thecuecollector is machine spliced. .

This is why I love this site, so much knowledge available to the layman . . :applouse:

[perpetualboredom]

on Andy and Gordon's site they have a version of this cue and it is burr splice with thin green veneer
http://www.thecuecollector.com/Willi...ecordsCue.html
the one on ebay appears to have a thicker veneer
maybe the difference is whether it is made by B&Ws or Peradon,?

All the cues with that style of badge would have been made by Peradon.

[DeanH]

Yeah, plus the one in thecuecollector is machine spliced. .

This is why I love this site, so much knowledge available to the layman . . :applouse:

the machine spliced one appears not to be tulip or a burr wood, and again the veneer appears different in size again
as PB has said, "oddities" will happen

[DeanH]

All the cues with that style of badge would have been made by Peradon.

ah thanks

[coomsey76]

I was actually looking at this cue this morning as well......

Thanks for the info guys..... That cuecollector site is cracking, very useful!!

[Thinslice]

i was also looking at this cue ,not a expert or anything but seems a bit short of length .just a thought what do you think ?

[jrc750]

i was also looking at this cue ,not a expert or anything but seems a bit short of length .just a thought what do you think ?

Personally i wouldn't touch it, but that's just me, i think old cues should be 57 1/2" min

[Thinslice]

yes jrc750 thats what i thought ,unless stated that its been altered.

[perpetualboredom]

You could order a cue at any size back then, just as you can now.
Don't believe what you read that every cue under 58" must have been altered or chopped!
..Or for that matter that every thin tip has been reduced at a later date, some players played with 9mm tips even back then.

Not everyone is a giant like John (JRC) who needs a long cue.. John Higgins played with a cue ~56" if I recall, and I'm sure the famous cue of Steve Davis also ended up sub 56", I was only taking to someone about that today. It didn't do their games much harm.

[jrc750]

Err i'm normal, not a giant lol

[DeanH]

Err i'm normal, not a giant lol

you are on TSF lol

[perpetualboredom]

Err i'm normal, not a giant lol

Shush, I'm creating a legend!
Just watch out for stones..