Beware of hobbiest cue makers

[Bigmeek]

well this is a crazy thread with some good one liners in it, but for me " there's too much broadcasting and not enough tuning in " on the forum these days..........if Jim can do cues that double up as bow and arrows that's a unique selling point he should be charging more.. i can see it now " The Robin Hood Range ".......;-)

Cue craft used to do a Sherwood, lol.

[Leo]

This was not my intention i was just annoyed at how i was treated by jim and by the poor quality of his work for the money i paid dont get me wrong i wasnt expecting perfection but it wasnt even close!

And you have every right to be annoyed, and maybe if the seller was more polite in returning the refund then this thread may not of started.
May this be a lesson in the future to you and the seller that knowledge and experience are normally key factors in making cues, and hopefully im sure the seller will take this on board when he makes his other cue, everyone has to start somewhere and Im sure he wont send another cue out unless its right.

[old school]

Golferson ,Post # 32 " perpetual " played with said cue , ask him how it played .

[jim evans]

some pics of my notorious bow cue,,,,,,,

[Brianwalter]

Obviously gona post only good pictures i thought it looked good in pictures to until you sent it to me. Are you serriously saying i lied about cue being kinked at end lol what a joke why would i lie i paid you money i wanted the cue so why would i send it back and why would you offer to fix it if there was nothing wrong jim?

[jim evans]

the cue sights straight thats all i will say,anybody want to view it i will send to them,but why should it cost me anymore to prove that you wanted a proffessional made cue at a hobbiest price,you knew i was a hobbiest if you didnt you should have checked,i never made out it was perfect ,when i do get perfection the price of my cues will prob go up.

[Brianwalter]

You do charrge profesionAl rates 230 is wat you pay for a decent cue i had 3 people play with cue and all said same as me they would never accept that and to be honest you have prob sorted it by now . At end of the dat i have a craftsman cue thats 6 years old that was in better condition than what you sent me jim you no the truth or you wouldnt have offered to fix cue!

[jim evans]

the only thing i have done to the cue is clean a load of scratch marks of the front splice and re oil the butt,so no i have not touched shaft didnt have to.

[jim evans]

and as for professional prices you want to look at the real world,prices are around £350 upwards or my professional cues were,but ime a fool,a liar and a robbing get.

[Brianwalter]

Like i said you would say that jim. Crafts man cues charge same as you for same cue they are profesional cue maker therefore you charge profesional price! And the cue was scratched on arrival wat you get for not wrapping up before you put in tube for transport. Cue was unacceptable for money you charged thats the bottom line and then you dnt even give me full refund!

[jim evans]

did paypal take some thats what you get for being a obnoxious person and threatening people ,lol,and the cue was under £200,the £30.95 which took it over was postage and minibutt.

[Brianwalter]

You ignored me for days jim you had my money what you expect i didnt no if i was gona get it back and i was nothing but nice to you at start just accept somebody caught you out i told you all i wanted was my money and then we could just forget and move on! Your cue was unacceptable for that price and you no it was ! Did i call you anything NO! simply told you i would contact police if you didnt return what was mine that was fair as far as im concerned you got your cue back
I just wanted my money! There was only one of us that was rude and that was you!

[Brianwalter]

Lol crafts man price includes postage to so still same! And funny that jim coz you used parcel force 48 and i used parcel force 24 and it only cost me 15 to send back lol but cost you double to send sure jim lol myn was quicker than yours but yours was double the price that makes sense!

[jim evans]

you dont call 20 some messages rude , i told you i would pay you monday thought i had but put in wrong paypal that was a mistake.

[vmax4steve]

I wish i did take photos now! And an inch where the tullip was at its thinest each off the four points were diffrent lengthS

You supposed to play with the bloody thing not measure it. The ebony splices on my cue differ by about an inch in length, thats what you get when a cue is hand planed mate. Perfect length splices are achieved when the shaft is clamped in a jig and planed by machine, like those Thai cues that everyone is ejaculating over on this forum.

As for the shaft being a little bit curved, that can happen after the cue has been made when the last of the stresses in the timber are only released after the final sanding and finishing. The ash simply could have moved while in transit unkown to the maker. Are you certain that is was curved ? could the grain of the ash on the shaft have caught your eye and made it look like it was, this can happen.

This is the price you pay for not being on a two year waiting list like with John Parris who will wait for that amount of time until he knows that the shaft is question will not move further and deserves to be called an Ultimate.
His splice lengths are seen by many to be sub standard yet most of the pros use his cues, and I bet they don't get out a steel ruler when they unpack them, just get on the table and find out how it plays.

And text speak is no excuse either, you don't pay by character for posts on this forum, it's free.