Beware of hobbiest cue makers

[RogiBear]

If they wernt closed that wud make mesurement bigger not smaller

It wouldn't, a 'zero error' would occur making it smaller

[culraven]

My main playing cue is one of Jim's that he made for Fred's fund, and I have followed his progress as a cue maker on his blog and seen some of the finest looking cues as he is always posting pics of ongoing projects, including this very cue if I'm not mistaken?
You will not find a nicer guy to deal with, but you have to appreciate that by his own admission he is not a professional cue maker and his cues are all hand made, I know my cue didn't end up exactly the length I expected, but Jim checked this with me and even refused to take payment until I was happy with it.
My advice to any one considering using a hobbyist such as Jim, would be agree a price, set your tolerances, and just be grateful for the time and effort they have put in, as they rarely turn a profit when you take account of wastage along with other set up costs.
Re your other points, Jim can take a while to get back to you, because he isn't running a business and has a life, Paypal took your money not Jim, and as for the baw bag comment it would appear to be a fair assessment given your conduct?

[andy carson]

lets see if im getting this right

someone buys a cue from someone on here who makes them as a sideline

maker ships cue out

buyer not exactly happy with overall finish of cue

maker offers to "fix" cue to make it more suitable

buyer comes on here giving it all sorts in some sort of foreign half english language

forum members jump to makers defence

1 picture is posted

buyer still unhappy even after refund as of postage (name me 1 company that refunds your postage if you send something back.... ive just sent a very expensive camera lens off for repair to the maker due to it being faulty within 3 weeks of purchase - had to pay postage!)

3 lambs sacrificed to john parris as a sorry for every calling anyone else a top quality craftsman making cues.

bloody bawbags the lot of yas

[itsnoteasy]

I never complained about paying postage at all i complained i paid 230 but got 220 back postage nothing to do with it! Everybody going on bout splices wat bout butt of cue that was suppose to be 30 mm but was 27mm 3 mm a big diffrence to the feal of a cue ! Anybody that orders s cue from jim is crazy when u can get far better quality cues to the specs you actualy want for the same possibly less in price! I read all posts bout jim and was very excites to get cue but now left dissapointed by how hes dealt with the situation like i keep says cue was no where near wat i asked for and very poor quality for price!

Well I think the reason you got what you got as a refund has been explained, you can't expect Jim to pay your PayPal fees. There is a very recent post on the forum where someone sent a Parris cue straight back, as they weren't happy with it, so this type of thing can happen to the top professional makers ,if that's the right term. Also I don't think five days is a vastly overly long time to wait for a refund, maybe very slightly but not enough to have a go at(just my opinion), I can understand you are upset as you didn't like the cue(for whatever reason) but if you think about it in the cold light of day do you think Jim has done this to deliberately annoy you? Or do you think something genuinely has gone a bit wrong and things have got blown out of proportion ? I'll bet it's the latter , and at the end of the day as was stated above, you bought a cue, you didn't like it, you got your money back, so it's not turned out that bad apart from your obvious disappointment

[Removal man stevie]

Am not jumping on your back mate you have your own thoughts on your experience with Jim but can a ask you if the cue you asked Jim to make you came back exactly how you asked in spec and you was happy and some one els gets a cue from Jim out of spec and goes on and gives him a bad reive would you think it's fair ?

[Brianwalter]

Like ive said if jim wasnt such an ******* to me id not have done this i would of jus put it down to bad expirience coz i understand it czn happen mistakes are made like when his drill sliped when badging and he had to put single front splice on i understood and accepted it coz we can all make mistakes but he was a dick to me and he could of done a friends payment through pay pal like i did when paying then nobody gets charged fees!

[Removal man stevie]

A don't have pay pal so a cant comment on fees mate but not being Cheeky but how much did you loose out of what you paid to Jim

[jb134]

A don't have pay pal so a cant comment on fees mate but not being Cheeky but how much did you loose out of what you paid to Jim

it should be left in the past so enjoy the game wee all love

[Removal man stevie]

Couldn't agree more mate

[Brianwalter]

A don't have pay pal so a cant comment on fees mate but not being Cheeky but how much did you loose out of what you paid to Jim

£10 to some people not alot of money i no but to me thats a box of nappiesor baby milk for my wee boy jus dnt think there was any need for jim to do that at all! Like i said i paid for postage would never have expected jim to but thought id get all my money back !

[Removal man stevie]

I no what your saying mate just best to move forward

[Terry Davidson]

did paypal take some thats what you get for being a obnoxious person and threatening people ,lol,and the cue was under £200,the £30.95 which took it over was postage and minibutt.

Jim:

I understand you now have an extra cue for sale. Whjat are the specs and price please

Terry

[andy carson]

£10 to some people not alot of money i no but to me thats a box of nappiesor baby milk for my wee boy jus dnt think there was any need for jim to do that at all! Like i said i paid for postage would never have expected jim to but thought id get all my money back !

you need to take that up with paypal (ebay) as jim wont have seen that money either, he will have refunded you the full amount he recieved through paypal. Its the price you pay for using thier service as something safer than paying cash or bank transfer

[jb134]

£10 to some people not alot of money i no but to me thats a box of nappiesor baby milk for my wee boy jus dnt think there was any need for jim to do that at all! Like i said i paid for postage would never have expected jim to but thought id get all my money back !

Worried about £10 for your kid but buying a £230 cue? Come on mate.

[Maloy]

Worried about £10 for your kid but buying a £230 cue? Come on mate.

+100!!! Nicely spotted! Could buy used Mastercue for 150 (or even less)... and 8 boxes of baby milk!