Burwat Champion Cue

[jrc750]

That's too much money for that cue. You might justify £175 for an undamaged player with a good badge, otherwise leave it. The main thing this shows of course, is how overpriced new cues are.

Why do you say that ??? they often go for much more and this looks a nice one

[culraven]

That's too much money for that cue. You might justify £175 for an undamaged player with a good badge, otherwise leave it. The main thing this shows of course, is how overpriced new cues are.

How are new cues overpriced, if anything the mark up on the older cues is considerably higher taking into acount labour costs and all other production costs at the time! I'm sure the top end cues back in the 50's and 60's cost the equivalent of a months wages, and now they must be half that, and the actual mark up is minimal for the actual cue maker!

[jb134]

Why do you say that ??? they often go for much more and this looks a nice one

Badge doesn't look too clever and quite simply, they shouldn't got for more than that. Certainly not sight unseen. Of any cue ever made, there is a higher percentage if bad ones than any cue I have ever seen.

[jb134]

[QUOTE=culraven;786671]How are new cues overpriced, if anything the mark up on the older cues is considerably higher taking into acount labour costs and all other production costs at the time! I'm sure the top end cues back in the 50's and 60's cost the equivalent of a months wages, and now they must be half that, and the actual mark up is minimal for the actual cue maker![/QUOTE]

I am not aware of cues being a months wages in the 60s, I'll have to take your word for that.

However, as for "mark up" are you having an actual laugh?

[jrc750]

Badge doesn't look too clever and quite simply, they shouldn't got for more than that. Certainly not sight unseen. Of any cue ever made, there is a higher percentage if bad ones than any cue I have ever seen.

Looks pretty good to me, got to expect some wear over the years, do you mean bad as in they don't play well, or in looks ??? this looks very nice indeed
ps i sold one for £270 ish

[jb134]

Looks pretty good to me, got to expect some wear over the years, do you mean bad as in they don't play well, or in looks ??? this looks very nice indeed
ps i sold one for £270 ish

I know some have sold well over the years and there are a lot of starting collectors who feel one is a necessity for a collection, which I suppose it is, but my feelings are they are generally over priced and poor.

I mean bad as in playing and often in looks, I believe it was the longest running mass produced, albeit handmade, cue ever, as such there are an awful lot of bad ones. I think a top shaft at B&W would be more liky to become a Eureka or a Mascot. Which, rightly, often achieve greater prices.

Ps. If you run across a nice Mascot, let me know.

[ADR147]

That's too much money for that cue. You might justify £175 for an undamaged player with a good badge, otherwise leave it. The main thing this shows of course, is how overpriced new cues are.

not sure i agree - materials alone in a new cue are often over £100.

[desso]

Stevie on the mend. every good doctor know a cue a day takes the pain away. (it was a due doctor mind, ive now got 125 cues and still cant get rid of my piles!).

Now you need to show us some nice photo of your collection!!

[justf]

Now you need to show us some nice photo of your collection!!

Lol desso, not really 125 cues!was just meant to be a joke (lousy i know). Collection is 4 parris, a coutts, mw, glover, trev white, t wilshaw (think just machine made) and a travis. Its just a thing i got into joining here! Honestly just see so many fantastic looking cues its hard to stop. The limited edition parris 147alltheway is selling is driving me nuts (its a beauty) nearly had a exquisite and hoping ADR gets back to me about a cue! Thing is im not that great at snooker fair at pool! But its fun looking for cues whether to admire or try to buy!lol

[desso]

Lol desso, not really 125 cues!was just meant to be a joke (lousy i know). Collection is 4 parris, a coutts, mw, glover, trev white, t wilshaw (think just machine made) and a travis. Its just a thing i got into joining here! Honestly just see so many fantastic looking cues its hard to stop. The limited edition parris 147alltheway is selling is driving me nuts (its a beauty) nearly had a exquisite and hoping ADR gets back to me about a cue! Thing is im not that great at snooker fair at pool! But its fun looking for cues whether to admire or try to buy!lol

still a very good nice collection, still I demand to see photo of all, hahaa.

[justf]

lol i will take some pics put them up, what cues do you have desso? The robin cook cue you have is a class cue thats one maker i have tried and failed to get, i know he made excellent cues.

[desso]

lol i will take some pics put them up, what cues do you have desso? The robin cook cue you have is a class cue thats one maker i have tried and failed to get, i know he made excellent cues.

I do have a travis coming soon, a G-cue from Gavin@MW, a machine made Rileys and the Cook.

[justf]

How does the g-cue play? I do like the look of his cues.

[desso]

How does the g-cue play? I do like the look of his cues.

it is very well made and finished, but the English ash is not stiff enough for my liking. I am sure someone will love it tough, just not for me.

[justf]

What are specs? Sounds like shaft may suit pool more will you sell there desso?