Coutts cook cues

[jono*]

Saw on Dave Coutts facebook page that he has now launched the coutts and cook cues collaboration. I see why Robin was no longer taking orders and it seems the cues are limited to the chinese market. Any idea on price expected for these?

[Leo]

Saw on Dave Coutts facebook page that he has now launched the coutts and cook cues collaboration. I see why Robin was no longer taking orders and it seems the cues are limited to the chinese market. Any idea on price expected for these?

another money making engine and good luck to them,but can't help feeling that the days of handmade cue orders will be over very soon

[justf]

Saw on Dave Coutts facebook page that he has now launched the coutts and cook cues collaboration. I see why Robin was no longer taking orders and it seems the cues are limited to the chinese market. Any idea on price expected for these?

Were a couple for sale a few months back, just over a grand. I was also told they were made by cue makers there, not by coutts and cook directly. I hope the second part wrong as love the idea of owning one.

[cueman]

another money making engine and good luck to them,but can't help feeling that the days of handmade cue orders will be over very soon

Yes without a doubt. Near enough all sole cue makers now barring a couple of exceptions are now using agents as their preferred way of making cues to order.
I guess the chinese market was always going to mean these guys would sell out to them because of the huge potential to make hundreds of cues each year. Not only that but so long as it has the badge on it half the chinese wouldn't even know if it was made by joe bloggs or dave coutts.

Great time to become a famous cue maker, Raymo and JO must be delighted that their participation on this site enabled them to get recognition and a reputation to now go on and make big money. Shame they forget their roots and the loyalty that was shown to them through many members on this site taking a risk on them and subsequently giving them great feedback through reviews and pics though!

[gazza147]

Many of Cue makers in UK going down this route now and have done for some time!

Gaz.

[jono*]

I think it's unfortunate that now UK players who want a genuine UK made cue now can either wait very long times for their cues, or be rejected orders. Then opting for the Thai made cues instead. Players overseas then being able to purchase big brands are given priority.

[jono*]

Let's hope they were genuinely made by them to be fetching a grand plus...if not then there would be meltdown on the forum. I remember Thai gate claims that if they weren't handmade by yourself you shouldn't market them as they are

[Mellow Yellow]

I think it's unfortunate that now UK players who want a genuine UK made cue now can either wait very long times for their cues, or be rejected orders. Then opting for the Thai made cues instead. Players overseas then being able to purchase big brands are given priority.

craftsman and mastercraft are uk makers with short waiting lists

Let's hope they were genuinely made by them to be fetching a grand plus...if not then there would be meltdown on the forum. I remember Thai gate claims that if they weren't handmade by yourself you shouldn't market them as they are

lol almost like selling snow to eskimos

[jrc750]

craftsman and mastercraft are uk makers with short waiting lists

I thought Craftsman stopped making made to measure cues?

[Mellow Yellow]

hmmm maybe? I asked a bit ago and they could make an ash but not maple. also had an ash made for a mate about a year ago.

edit......... their website is a bit confusing, but I think they will still make custom orders.

[Leo]

Let's hope they were genuinely made by them to be fetching a grand plus...if not then there would be meltdown on the forum. I remember Thai gate claims that if they weren't handmade by yourself you shouldn't market them as they are

cuemakers are not silly they want to make a living like us all and the easiest & cheapest way possible,not saying they all do and to be honest i can't blame them because after all many people can't tell the difference in a decent cue to a bad cue without looking at the name badge first. I might add though Thai cues are very good you only have to look at gbl which I believe are Thai

[jono*]

Yes. But dc was one of those to criticize cuemakers for misleading badging of cues when they haven't made the cue themselves. So a cue is made in China then badged with a leading UK maker name and sold for a huge margin. How is that different to will hunt? A big fuss was made about his involvement in this practice. Not saying Thai cues are bad they are fantastic for the money..

[jono*]

Of course I could be wrong in which case they are all hand made by him...

[paddy123]

does it state handmade on the badge ?

[kadobau]

does it state handmade on the badge ?