Mezz V95 ???

[ronfor0603]

Since I mostly played American pool in my life, I have tried most things InnAbout Pool. The Poolcue I have today is a Mezz. Mezz for me is absolutely unbeatable in terms of quality and playability around the table. I did not know Mezz also made snooker cues. It is quite expensive 836 Australian dollars.
Does anyone have any experience of these cues.
Do you think that the Mezz should stick to the pool cues?
Was there any noticeable difference between a "regular" snooker cue and Mezz?
Does anyone have one for sale?
Regards / Ronnie

[Chappy5]

I asked the same question 6 Months ago!

http://www.thesnookerforum.co.uk/boa...ker-Cue-market

Seems no one is playing with them that i know of still around my local leagues and most just are put off by the price when asked about them if they even know what they are.

I reckon they will be a flop and a failed venture by Mezz as that is a hell of a lot of money for a machine spliced Cue and i don't care how much your " CNC " machine is worth or how good it is, us Snooker players are not going to pay it off for you by purchasing these Cues with only the feedback of a seller to go by! No seller is going to say they are sh!t house are they??

[Terry Davidson]

I asked the same question 6 Months ago!

http://www.thesnookerforum.co.uk/boa...ker-Cue-market

Seems no one is playing with them that i know of still around my local leagues and most just are put off by the price when asked about them if they even know what they are.

I reckon they will be a flop and a failed venture by Mezz as that is a hell of a lot of money for a machine spliced Cue and i don't care how much your " CNC " machine is worth or how good it is, us Snooker players are not going to pay it off for you by purchasing these Cues with only the feedback of a seller to go by! No seller is going to say they are sh!t house are they??

I checked into these cues too and I came to the same conclusion. When I looked at adding shipping and duty it was as if this manufacturer is not of this Earth

[ronfor0603]

I checked into these cues too and I came to the same conclusion. When I looked at adding shipping and duty it was as if this manufacturer is not of this Earth

Can't really understand way they are so expensive? I have emailed dynamic billiard and asked what the cue will cost shipped to Europe, hopefully I will get an answer on Monday? But all in all, Mezz really make beautiful cue and they are a pleasure to play with.
But Mezz snooker cue.....hmmmm???? No idea.

I think it's a gamble to by such an expensive cue, ther is no second hand for mezz snooker cue....yet.
I think they should have started of by selling it for half the price to see if there were any responses on the market.
/Ronnie

[eaoin11]

I asked the same question 6 Months ago!

http://www.thesnookerforum.co.uk/boa...ker-Cue-market

Seems no one is playing with them that i know of still around my local leagues and most just are put off by the price when asked about them if they even know what they are.

I reckon they will be a flop and a failed venture by Mezz as that is a hell of a lot of money for a machine spliced Cue and i don't care how much your " CNC " machine is worth or how good it is, us Snooker players are not going to pay it off for you by purchasing these Cues with only the feedback of a seller to go by! No seller is going to say they are sh!t house are they??

They are probably the most respected large-scale manufacturers of pool cues in the world. They won't lose sleep over "paying off their CNC" and can afford to dabble in the snooker cue market without risking much. Michael has come on here and asked people to try them to post a review so I don't think the tone of this post is very fair. Perhaps very few people have the time or inclination to write a review. I'd like to try one but I won't travel to Sydney for that alone.

As for the price, plenty of known makers charge more for a one piece with nothing but four ebony splices and a bit of brass on each end. This has a lot of features that UK makers don't offer, none of which have been mentioned so far in this thread.

And if you look at the pictures you'll see that it isn't spliced at all, but splices do nothing on a 3/4 cue.

[Chappy5]

They are probably the most respected large-scale manufacturers of pool cues in the world. They won't lose sleep over "paying off their CNC" and can afford to dabble in the snooker cue market without risking much. Michael has come on here and asked people to try them to post a review so I don't think the tone of this post is very fair. Perhaps very few people have the time or inclination to write a review. I'd like to try one but I won't travel to Sydney for that alone.

As for the price, plenty of known makers charge more for a one piece with nothing but four ebony splices and a bit of brass on each end. This has a lot of features that UK makers don't offer, none of which have been mentioned so far in this thread.

And if you look at the pictures you'll see that it isn't spliced at all, but splices do nothing on a 3/4 cue.

The fact that no one is using them is saying more than it has to.

You say Micheal has come on here asking people to use them??? Who is he on here and show me a link to these posts, as that is news to me that i have not seen.

You really think $1000 dollars is good value for these Cues when no one is using them and they are entering a market that they really do not specialize in?

In all reality it is like Morris Cooper Mini the car manufacturer saying " Buy our 20 tonne truck we just made cause we make good small cars "........

What the seller of the Cues says means little for obvious reasons.

[Chappy5]

I checked into these cues too and I came to the same conclusion. When I looked at adding shipping and duty it was as if this manufacturer is not of this Earth

Agree.

Stick a Mezz badge on it...... Hey whatta ya know lets ask double what it is actually worth!

They wont be getting my money at those prices.

[ronfor0603]

I sent an E-mail to a person who works with Mezz Cues. Out of respect so I will not mention any names.
My question was





Hello *******.
I would love to have a Mezz v95, but 900 Australian dollars is way too much for a cue that hardley anybody knows about. Everybody knows that Mezz makes absolutely beautiful and great American Pool cues, but I think it's a gamble to charge that much for a snooker cue, you can not compete with parris, Travis, or any other English cue maker. I can order a custom made cue for that price (hand made) but I still think that Mezz makes the best cue, and I'm sure that the mezz v95 is a beautiful cue. But it is like a said a gamble. What would the v95 cost in Europe? I haven't seen any dealers in Europe that sells this cue. Regards/Ronnie

And this I got in response


Dear Ronnie,

Thank you for your thorough email. However I have some reservations to some of the points you made. Your point that we are unable to compete with Parris, Travis or any other English cue maker is not well based. Yes, you are correct about the knowledge on the market (and please advise that it used to be the same with our pool cues as well), i.e. that these English cue makers are much more known on snooker market. However I am absolutely sure that in quality and performance way our Mezz Cues SKR snooker cues are the same or better. Additionally we offer a possibility to add weight in the shaft which is quite unique possibility and gives a player immensely more options not only to change the cue balance, but to his playing style as well. Therefore being all that said I assure you that our SKR cues are not only beautiful cues, but they do perform and I mean PERFORM on highest possible level. The MSRP for the SKR snooker cues is as follows:

SKR-B 700€

SKR-C 716€

SKR-E 716€

All our dealers offer our snooker cues and thank you for your remark. I make sure to remind everyone about our snooker cues.

Waiting for your thoughts.

Best regards***********


The person in question may be right in some things she / he says.
That it was the same thing in the beginning when they started manufactured American Pool Cues
But over 700 € for a cue that nobody knows anything about (except the brand) may be a bit too much.
/Ronnie

[narl]

Just looks like they've modified some pool cues and marketed them as snooker cues.

[eaoin11]

I've decided to edit this after doing a couple of quick searches. But still think there's not a great deal of common sense in these posts...

Actually, it might have been the thread you started in July that informed me of these cues. Yes it is my recollection that he invited people to try the cues to post a review, that might have been on his website but I can't find it now. However there are three reviews at sharpsnooker.com.au dated in June and July 2014 including one by Michael, and it looks like 7 have been sold.

In all of the arguments about price none of your comments here make any mention of the features these cues have. A pie piece laminated shaft is likely to stay straight and be stronger than a standard shaft. CNC means that the taper will be very good and consistent from cue to cue. I received a Parris cue in 2003 that cost me $1400 with the worst taper I have ever seen on any cue. It had flat spots on the chevrons at the business end. A stainless steel ferrule is both stronger and lighter than brass. The stainless steel United joint has a great reputation and the ability to alter the weight is not offered by any of the recognized UK cue makers. All of these things cost more to provide than a piece of wood with four splices and a few bits of brass. If you don't think these features are worth it, don't buy the cue. None of you show any ability to weigh a number of factors together in order to reach an informed conclusion.

And Narl, their pool cues are 1/2 split, while the Mezz v95 are 3/4. So no, they haven't taken a bunch of pool cues and modified them. It is obviously a different design. If it's made for snooker, then it's a snooker cue.

[Ramon]

Well, I found this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lFAsAz7n4g

interesting thread!! Well, nothing I can say about these cues, because I have'nt tried them. As I see on the internet, these cues ( som of them ) are made of Laminated shaft, (100 percent maple laminated). That surprises me.
Predator was going to make snooker cues a few years ago. These cues would be made of Same quality as Z shaft. (Z shaft is used in pool cues). however, that plan was later cancelled . So, how did Mez done this??? I do'nt know. Laminated shaft is not cheap. Especially Titanium (if they use that for the joint). Anyway,,Maybe a bit too expensive????? !!!!!
As for the balance ,, It looks like you can change the balance of the cue. Is the first time I hear such a thing. never heard of it !!!
But , i would love to try one of these cues !! just Curious how does he plays !!

[Chappy5]

I've decided to edit this after doing a couple of quick searches. But still think there's not a great deal of common sense in these posts...

Actually, it might have been the thread you started in July that informed me of these cues. Yes it is my recollection that he invited people to try the cues to post a review, that might have been on his website but I can't find it now. However there are three reviews at sharpsnooker.com.au dated in June and July 2014 including one by Michael, and it looks like 7 have been sold.

In all of the arguments about price none of your comments here make any mention of the features these cues have. A pie piece laminated shaft is likely to stay straight and be stronger than a standard shaft. CNC means that the taper will be very good and consistent from cue to cue. I received a Parris cue in 2003 that cost me $1400 with the worst taper I have ever seen on any cue. It had flat spots on the chevrons at the business end. A stainless steel ferrule is both stronger and lighter than brass. The stainless steel United joint has a great reputation and the ability to alter the weight is not offered by any of the recognized UK cue makers. All of these things cost more to provide than a piece of wood with four splices and a few bits of brass. If you don't think these features are worth it, don't buy the cue. None of you show any ability to weigh a number of factors together in order to reach an informed conclusion.

And Narl, their pool cues are 1/2 split, while the Mezz v95 are 3/4. So no, they haven't taken a bunch of pool cues and modified them. It is obviously a different design. If it's made for snooker, then it's a snooker cue.

You sound like a seller of them yourself from this post.

There is no doubting you are very close to Mick Sharp to be sprouting this nonsense over a Cue you yourself has not tried. If LIKELY to stay straight is base of your support for these 1 thousand dollar Cues i am dumbfounded. The ability to change weights is like buying a new car in which you can change the window tint and it will not make it faster or any better.

If you like the Cue so much and bother to write posts like the above buy the thing! But honestly your review of it even if you do will hardly be worth reading as i have no doubt it will be the best Cue you have ever played with.

Yet there is not much common sense in others posts as you put it.....

Cancel Mick's review out as he never says a bad thing about any Cue he is selling, i am seriously doubting you need to be a Rhodes Scholar to work that part out.

[ronfor0603]

Dear snooker friends now, we will not become irritated by each other's comments.
Everyone must have the right to an opinion about it. Now Eoin11 said what he thinks, which is a good thing, I think.
That Mezz has all the features, are certainly great ?? what do I know? Hence the question in the first place. Is it worth 900 dollars ?? Hence the question in the first place. Then it is inevitable that some will be opinions about price, quality, playability, but let's keep it constructive criticism if you have one.

I'll tell you honestly what I think about the Mezz and I mean Mezz Cues American Pool. BEST IN THE WORLD. (now I hope someone from Mezz sees this and is sponsoring me with a snooker cue:-) I really want one. but not for $ 900

All this talk about Mezz favors only mezz in the end. Even if you talk **** about them, or good about them.

Maybe we should end this thread, because no one seems to have any experience of these cues.

Excuse my bad English.
Or wait. Why should I pardon me, you ought to learn better Swedish. Large parts of England was actually Swedish one time:-)

There you go !! now a new discussion started:-)
/Ronnie

[eaoin11]

Dear snooker friends now, we will not become irritated by each other's comments.
Everyone must have the right to an opinion about it. Now Eoin11 said what he thinks, which is a good thing, I think.
That Mezz has all the features, are certainly great ?? what do I know? Hence the question in the first place. Is it worth 900 dollars ?? Hence the question in the first place. Then it is inevitable that some will be opinions about price, quality, playability, but let's keep it constructive criticism if you have one.

I'll tell you honestly what I think about the Mezz and I mean Mezz Cues American Pool. BEST IN THE WORLD. (now I hope someone from Mezz sees this and is sponsoring me with a snooker cue:-) I really want one. but not for $ 900

All this talk about Mezz favors only mezz in the end. Even if you talk **** about them, or good about them.

Maybe we should end this thread, because no one seems to have any experience of these cues.

Excuse my bad English.
Or wait. Why should I pardon me, you ought to learn better Swedish. Large parts of England was actually Swedish one time:-)

There you go !! now a new discussion started:-)
/Ronnie

I agree with you Ronfor, best in the world for pool cues and no strangers to innovation, as with many manufacturers in Japan. I lived in Japan and played a lot of 9 ball there for 5 years. The snooker scene is quite small but the snooker room I went to had a lot of expensive UK cues on the rack so it's not like Mezz wouldn't know what they're up against. I don't think they would have released these snooker cues unless they were confident about their performance as well.

I was wondering about the same thing, Raymo, as I didn't think any of their pool shafts were laminated. If anyone has resources to produce them I imagine it would be Mezz but they might use external suppliers. Predator and Deroo use them as well, and Deroo makes both 3/4 and 1/2 jointed cues. I also know that sellers of cue making supplies in the U.S offer them for pool cues.

Chappy, I live in Brisbane and am just another pratt obsessed with cues (see post count). I don't have any connection with Sharpsnooker or Mezz. I just don't agree with someone casting a new and interesting product in a bad light simply because they haven't seen one yet. If you live in Melbourne perhaps you can make it to Bendigo this year and try one.

[ronfor0603]

Yes when it comes to American Pool, Mezz is the best (my personal opinion) and I would buy one if there was an opportunity to try one first. In Sweden we do not have the luxury that many Englishmen / women have to walk into a store and feel and test a cue. Unfortunately snooker is not so big in Sweden as pool is. Therefore, one must rely on others' Feedback and experience of snooker cues. Have played billiards since 1988 so I am no stranger to the sport, and I can only go on gut feeling and experience when someone gives an explanation of how a cue is felt and experienced around the table.

But sometimes you obviously wrong. But with Mezz it's pretty hard that it goes wrong (Again, very personal)
But Mezz snookercue!!! I have never heard of it, and it can be costly if things go wrong. It may feel right in the beginning (novelty) But the day you want to sell the cue, then you have to throw it on someone to get rid of it. In addition, you paid $ 900 for the cue. not a good feeling.
/Ronnie