Air Angel Badge Design

[Byrom]

Lots of people badge up other peoples cues - some clever folk are just better at marketing -

[Master Blaster]

well I for one want him to have a go.i would much rather it was by his own hand that way he could avoid being a victim of his own criticism ie someone else making them then sticking a badge on them and calling them your own.once again mb go for it you talk the talk now lets see you walk the walk.if you need any help just ask

Cheers bud. Might need to call you!

[Master Blaster]

Lots of people badge up other peoples cues - some clever folk are just better at marketing -

Yep, and there's nothing wrong with that. A cue can say John Parris Ultimate but the doesn't say he personally made it. Or how about Purist by Powerglide. Again, the cue maker's name doesn't appear, or how about Peradon Prince, or Phoenix Elite, etc, etc. How about Craftsmen Cues? If the cue is the finest available, that's what counts.

We envisage taking pictures of each cue at every stage to be framed, so the the buyer can hang a montage on his wall. We also love marquetry and inlays on cues, so some marquetry, mother of pearl and gems may appear in the cue. This work would be done by an artist, not the cue maker. So that is an even better reason to not put the cue maker's name up. But the buyer will know who made the cue because a certficate will be included and this information will also appear on the chip inside the cue.

[Master Blaster]

Design for the Cue Plate of the first Air Angel Cue made from vintage (12yr+), air-dried ash.



Attached cue ticket will read: Hand Planed, Hand Spliced and Hand Finished by Craftsmen in England.

All cues individually numbered with the owners details via coded micro-chip inserts. This can only be changed by the cue maker, in an effort to stop fakes and thieves punting cues on ebay etc.

I'm thinking thin walled titanium ferrule, a mother of pearl hand carved angel insert on the plate, no butt socket.

[jonny66]

These cues sound like they will be very nice, not that I'd buy one, I wouldn't spend that on a car, nevermind a cue. But I do like fancy looking things with MOP or Abalone in them.

Unfortunately the name "air angel" sounds like an oddly sweet smelling fart.

[danam1]

MB, I like your enthusiasm but there's no way an ash shaft blank would cost £200+!

[danam1]

These cues sound like they will be very nice, not that I'd buy one, I wouldn't spend that on a car, nevermind a cue. But I do like fancy looking things with MOP or Abalone in them.

Unfortunately the name "air angel" sounds like an oddly sweet smelling fart.

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[Master Blaster]

im thinking this is more and more aurora and "airrin"(sp?) coming back from the dead and building up a large post count by psting utter cack before going on to selling cues...... oh look whats happening!

I thought I was Ronnie or JP? Oh, I'm Airin now. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mind you, you can't fault Aurora's timeless maple timber, compressed under water for hundreds of years. And their finish is pretty awesome.

[Master Blaster]

MB, I like your enthusiasm but there's no way an ash shaft blank would cost £200+!

It may cost a pretty penny if we have to 'recover' it. It could then be hundreds of years old, not just the minimum 12.

[Kieran m]

Bell of all ends

[albocaponey]

Bell of all ends

lol thats what the lads down my club call my tip

[jrc750]

.... We also love marquetry and inlays on cues, so some marquetry, mother of pearl and gems may appear in the cue. .....

I think you are alone on that one

[sanman]

I thought I was Ronnie or JP? Oh, I'm Airin now. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mind you, you can't fault Aurora's timeless maple timber, compressed under water for hundreds of years. And their finish is pretty awesome.

rubbish how is compression taking place when water pressure within wood fibre/cell is equal to water pressure ourside wood fibre/cell. Also if compression occured it would lead to the collapse of wood fibre leading to a weaker timber. so again rubbish

[Master Blaster]

rubbish how is compression taking place when water pressure within wood fibre/cell is equal to water pressure ourside wood fibre/cell. Also if compression occured it would lead to the collapse of wood fibre leading to a weaker timber. so again rubbish

How do you know this statement to be true; from experience of using timeless timber from Lake Michigan?

This is what Aurora say:

''Timeless Timber old growth maple are old growth virgin forest maple reclaimed from the bottom of Lake Michigan.
They are old growth maple logs that were axed by Indians when the North America continent was still covered by a thick canopy of virgin old growth forest. These wood logs fell into the lake as they were being transported and had been preserved by the low oxygen content and sub-zero temperature under water until they were reclaimed by the Timeless Timber company.
Timeless Timber logs had been compressed by the extremely high water pressure as they sat on the bottom of the lake for hundreds of years; therefore, they are much denser with much closer ring counts than regular old growth maple.
Due to the fact that Timeless Timber maple logs are very hard to find and very expensive to savage, Timeless Timber old growth maple is very rare and much more expensive than regular maple.''

My own view is that compression could occur depending on the depth of the water column on the logs. Submariners understand this principle. With the max depth at 281m (pressure at 419 psi) and a mean depth of 85m (pressure 125 psi), you'd have trouble diving in this lake even at mean depth which shows that compression is highly likely. What this does to the tree is moot, but they certainly would be under compression! Any gas in the wood would be compressed and may escape causing shrinkage.

[sanman]

because fibre strenght and wood fibre properties of hard and soft woods is my companies business. It undermines our quality requirements in all wood fibre products. Merely on a scientific basis wood fibre is made of lignin and cellulose, with the lignin holdinmg cellulose together like glue. Lignin is very rigid is structure. Being rigid it would resist deformation bur would crumble under severe pressure and hence experience cell damage and one would get a weaker cell structure.
Furthermore Aurora and Airin are as reliable as an a politician. The statement from their website is a load of utter hogwash.

How do you know this statement to be true; from experience of using timeless timber from Lake Michigan?

This is what Aurora say:

''Timeless Timber old growth maple are old growth virgin forest maple reclaimed from the bottom of Lake Michigan.
They are old growth maple logs that were axed by Indians when the North America continent was still covered by a thick canopy of virgin old growth forest. These wood logs fell into the lake as they were being transported and had been preserved by the low oxygen content and sub-zero temperature under water until they were reclaimed by the Timeless Timber company.
Timeless Timber logs had been compressed by the extremely high water pressure as they sat on the bottom of the lake for hundreds of years; therefore, they are much denser with much closer ring counts than regular old growth maple.
Due to the fact that Timeless Timber maple logs are very hard to find and very expensive to savage, Timeless Timber old growth maple is very rare and much more expensive than regular maple.''

My own view is that compression could occur depending on the depth of the water column on the logs. Submariners understand this principle. With the max depth at 281m (pressure at 419 psi) and a mean depth of 85m (pressure 125 psi), you'd have trouble diving in this lake even at mean depth which shows that compression is highly likely. What this does to the tree is moot, but they certainly would be under compression! Any gas in the wood would be compressed and may escape causing shrinkage.