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  • #46
    Originally Posted by sanman View Post
    because fibre strenght and wood fibre properties of hard and soft woods is my companies business. It undermines our quality requirements in all wood fibre products. Merely on a scientific basis wood fibre is made of lignin and cellulose, with the lignin holdinmg cellulose together like glue. Lignin is very rigid is structure. Being rigid it would resist deformation bur would crumble under severe pressure and hence experience cell damage and one would get a weaker cell structure.
    Furthermore Aurora and Airin are as reliable as an a politician. The statement from their website is a load of utter hogwash.
    I would believe you over them if you could provide some counter evidence. Simply that you work in a sawmill doesn't give you experience of trees from the bottom of lakes. To my mind, Vanguard class submarines could not dive at 280m because the hulls would collapse and they're made out of metal, not cellulose! So what happens to wood, allbeit a solid material?

    Don't forget, 419psi is 14 times the pressure in your car tyre.
    Last edited by Master Blaster; 22 June 2015, 09:40 AM.

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    • #47
      If I may make a guess. Your intended cues are going to be made from "timeless Timber" lol.

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      • #48
        Originally Posted by Master Blaster View Post
        Design for the Cue Plate of the first Air Angel Cue made from vintage (12yr+), air-dried ash.



        Attached cue ticket will read: Hand Planed, Hand Spliced and Hand Finished by Craftsmen in England.

        All cues individually numbered with the owners details via coded micro-chip inserts. This can only be changed by the cue maker, in an effort to stop fakes and thieves punting cues on ebay etc.
        https://goo.gl/9cJKBv

        clipart.JPG

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        • #49
          Originally Posted by sanman View Post
          If I may make a guess. Your intended cues are going to be made from "timeless Timber" lol.
          No, timeless ash. lol

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          • #50
            Ash being not Timber??
            Originally Posted by Master Blaster View Post
            No, timeless ash. lol

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            • #51
              If the subs shell was thin enough it would crumple. Especially if you had a compressible fluid like air inside the shell. However if you filled the sub with a non compressible fluid like water or most liquids it would not crumple. You should know that easy enough. Common sense. And with a claimed 150 IQ even you should be able to figure this out.
              Originally Posted by Master Blaster View Post
              I would believe you over them if you could provide some counter evidence. Simply that you work in a sawmill doesn't give you experience of trees from the bottom of lakes. To my mind, Vanguard class submarines could not dive at 280m because the hulls would collapse and they're made out of metal, not cellulose! So what happens to wood, allbeit a solid material?

              Don't forget, 419psi is 14 times the pressure in your car tyre.

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              • #52
                Originally Posted by sanman View Post
                If the subs shell was thin enough it would crumple. Especially if you had a compressible fluid like air inside the shell. However if you filled the sub with a non compressible fluid like water or most liquids it would not crumple. You should know that easy enough. Common sense. And with a claimed 150 IQ even you should be able to figure this out.
                Yeah, a submarine inner hull ( pressure hull ) has normal pressure inside it. It's not the pressure, but the DIFFERENCE in pressure that crushes things.

                The pressure inside the wood, would have equalised soon after it was submerged I would imagine.

                No difference in pressure = no compression.

                Are you sure you didn't write about your Cosra SXi on a Vauxhall forum once ?

                best just read posts by "P_D"

                http://www.vxronline.co.uk/forum/sho...p?665-My-Corsa

                Just in case link fails, he rekons :-

                I agree with your point, but the car is a little quicker than the standard SXi and so I felt the SRi badges were appropriate. It only carries 1 person, Me. It has no extra weight in the car, all glove compartments, cubby holes and the boot is empty. The rear exhaust may or may not add power. It has only ever run on Optimax, I know you get more boost out if this fuel on bigger engined cars but every little helps. The tyres are always inflated to 38 PSI to give extra grip and less tyre slouch. Often I put the rear seats flat, this reduces weight. (Like why you crawl flat across a frozen pond so as not to break the ice). I regularly drive with around £10 of fuel, again weight saving, and often I use engine cleaner in the fuel load to remove debris from the fuel injectors. The car is always clean improving aerodynamic progress. I have timed the 0 - 60 at 9.3 seconds, and this shaves a couple of seconds off the standard time. Hope this answers your question.

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                • #53
                  Bill is correct, it is the potential difference that is important however in the case of a sub shell the material still has to be strong enough to withstand the internal forces when very deep. It is no different to how a fuselage works. Same principle.

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                  • #54
                    i loled at this

                    Often I put the rear seats flat, this reduces weight.

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                    • #55
                      if this wood is dried out fully, it will just crumble and split a lot easier

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                      • #56
                        Nope I most certainly did not post about corsa SXI. You are correct about pressure difference. Only time there would be no crushing is if the strenght of the shell is able to withstand the pressure difference between the two sides of the shell or the fluid within the shell is non compressible. Like if the shell was filled with water it would not compress at all no matter the depth, which is what happens to a log that sinks, that is its completely saturated hence sinking to any depth would make no difference.
                        Originally Posted by billabong View Post
                        Yeah, a submarine inner hull ( pressure hull ) has normal pressure inside it. It's not the pressure, but the DIFFERENCE in pressure that crushes things.

                        The pressure inside the wood, would have equalised soon after it was submerged I would imagine.

                        No difference in pressure = no compression.

                        Are you sure you didn't write about your Cosra SXi on a Vauxhall forum once ?

                        best just read posts by "P_D"

                        http://www.vxronline.co.uk/forum/sho...p?665-My-Corsa

                        Just in case link fails, he rekons :-

                        I agree with your point, but the car is a little quicker than the standard SXi and so I felt the SRi badges were appropriate. It only carries 1 person, Me. It has no extra weight in the car, all glove compartments, cubby holes and the boot is empty. The rear exhaust may or may not add power. It has only ever run on Optimax, I know you get more boost out if this fuel on bigger engined cars but every little helps. The tyres are always inflated to 38 PSI to give extra grip and less tyre slouch. Often I put the rear seats flat, this reduces weight. (Like why you crawl flat across a frozen pond so as not to break the ice). I regularly drive with around £10 of fuel, again weight saving, and often I use engine cleaner in the fuel load to remove debris from the fuel injectors. The car is always clean improving aerodynamic progress. I have timed the 0 - 60 at 9.3 seconds, and this shaves a couple of seconds off the standard time. Hope this answers your question.

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                        • #57
                          One person keeps rehashing things he read online about wood and ****, then asks for counter evidence from people who are actually working with wood. It's entertaining to read but it won't ever come to him actually making a cue and actually selling it. just dreams. But its a entertaining read lol.

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                          • #58
                            Sorry Sanman, I was asking the question to Masterblaster.

                            My bad quoting to blame.

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                            • #59
                              Originally Posted by strobbekoen View Post
                              One person keeps rehashing things he read online about wood and ****, then asks for counter evidence from people who are actually working with wood. It's entertaining to read but it won't ever come to him actually making a cue and actually selling it. just dreams. But its a entertaining read lol.
                              I'm getting splinters just reading through this thread

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                              • #60
                                Originally Posted by mikeyd100 View Post
                                I'm getting splinters just reading through this thread
                                hehehehehe!

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