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  • Very wise decision about no bespoke orders, just make them and they will suit someone.

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    • Going back to the classic Monty Python burn the witch scene, was that MB shouting " make a cue out of her. "

      Love it. vmax...let us know when you have some cues turned out. I'm assuming fairly normal specs rather than duplicates of your own 60" cue? 58/18.5/9.4/28.5 would be good for me
      Terry Davidson
      IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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      • Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
        I have a cue made from one of the timbers from the Mary Rose, have to keep it submerged in the bath until match night or it will dry out and crumble if exposed to the air for a long period

        Going back to the classic Monty Python burn the witch scene, was that MB shouting " make a cue out of her. " :witless:

        You can fool some of the people all of the time etc etc.

        In the meantime I have just bought a bandsaw, work bench, belt/disc sander and a lathe; soon be up and running but won't be telling any porkies, won't be rebadging any Thai shafts, won't be taking any bespoke orders either. Just going to make some cues and sell them to those who like them. No bullsh1t required.
        J6 and many others don't even need a lathe! :biggrin-new:

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        • Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
          I have a cue made from one of the timbers from the Mary Rose, have to keep it submerged in the bath until match night or it will dry out and crumble if exposed to the air for a long period

          Going back to the classic Monty Python burn the witch scene, was that MB shouting " make a cue out of her. " :witless:

          You can fool some of the people all of the time etc etc.

          In the meantime I have just bought a bandsaw, work bench, belt/disc sander and a lathe; soon be up and running but won't be telling any porkies, won't be rebadging any Thai shafts, won't be taking any bespoke orders either. Just going to make some cues and sell them to those who like them. No bullsh1t required.
          No custom, no planes. May as well just let O'min and Phoenix get on with it. Even Peradon do custom. Why bother?
          Last edited by Master Blaster; 23 June 2015, 04:51 PM.

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          • Originally Posted by Master Blaster View Post
            J6 and many others don't even need a lathe! :biggrin-new:
            Originally Posted by Master Blaster View Post
            No custom, no planes. May as well just let O'min and Phoenix get on with it. Even Peradon do custom. Why bother?
            The lathe will be used for jointing, nothing more, Parris, TW, Coutts and even j6 use one for that, bandsaw will cut the boards into 35mm squares, handplaned from there to about 1mm over size and then sandpaper by hand to the final finish.
            Belt/disc sander will be used to give a smooth finish to the shaft and butt wood surfaces that are to be glued when splicing so as to cut down the risk of glue lines.
            Also I had a bad experience with some Ipe Tabaca ironwood that had to be sanded down from 3mm oversize as it chipped when being planed as it is so bloody hard. It took me a week, working three hours everyday purely only sanding by hand to finish that butt, £30 worth of sandpaper used; I got a great final finish as it's a kind of translucent wood with lot's of varying colours in it, and I only got £40 for the cue when it sold on ebay.

            I'm about to walk the walk while you're just gassing on the forum about badging and selling cues that someone else is going to make, probably in Thailand, paid a dollar a day and accommodation in the attic thrown in, while you expect two grand plus for it.

            As for not taking bespoke orders, I don't see the bloody point in buying a new cue that you already have, your game doesn't improve one iota and then selling it on with the requisite " yeah it's a great cue but I just couldn't get on with it, yours for £700, chance to beat the waiting time"

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            • Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
              The lathe will be used for jointing, nothing more, Parris, TW, Coutts and even j6 use one for that, bandsaw will cut the boards into 35mm squares, handplaned from there to about 1mm over size and then sandpaper by hand to the final finish.
              Belt/disc sander will be used to give a smooth finish to the shaft and butt wood surfaces that are to be glued when splicing so as to cut down the risk of glue lines.
              Also I had a bad experience with some Ipe Tabaca ironwood that had to be sanded down from 3mm oversize as it chipped when being planed as it is so bloody hard. It took me a week, working three hours everyday purely only sanding by hand to finish that butt, £30 worth of sandpaper used; I got a great final finish as it's a kind of translucent wood with lot's of varying colours in it, and I only got £40 for the cue when it sold on ebay.

              I'm about to walk the walk while you're just gassing on the forum about badging and selling cues that someone else is going to make, probably in Thailand, paid a dollar a day and accommodation in the attic thrown in, while you expect two grand plus for it.

              As for not taking bespoke orders, I don't see the bloody point in buying a new cue that you already have, your game doesn't improve one iota and then selling it on with the requisite " yeah it's a great cue but I just couldn't get on with it, yours for £700, chance to beat the waiting time"
              I can see a lot of wood movement ahead - lol
              Jointing, oh dear.

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              • a few weeks away and I see that MasterBatuer is still posting utter b*llocks

                sad tw@
                #jeSuisMasterBlasterBarryWhite2v1977Luclex(andHisF ictiousTwin)BigSplash!

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                • oooops duplicate post
                  #jeSuisMasterBlasterBarryWhite2v1977Luclex(andHisF ictiousTwin)BigSplash!

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                  • Spam-man, go back to your hols by all means.

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                    • Originally Posted by old school View Post
                      Bill , the Ash tree family ( Fraxinus ) has over 50 different species . American White Ash is Fraxinus Americana and the European Ash is Fraxinus Excelsior , so yes there is a difference , same family , different tree . They will have differences in specific density , colour etc but grain patterns , elasticity and commercial use remain similar . Both American and European Ash is often used in tool handles because of its durability , resistance to impact and elasticity , which is why its good for cues . Hope this helps.


                      While all this may be true, ash of all varieties is so enormously variable that it can be excellent or useless no matter where it came from. The reason american was and still is often used is simply due to the superior growing conditions, which yields a more suitable product for cue shaft, amongst other things.

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