Parris visit

[Ramon]

read post nr 35 ,,

http://www.thesnookerforum.co.uk/boa...rogress!/page4

[LucLex3119]

My apologies. I should have read the post properly.

[Ramon]

no problem at all.
JP is an experienced cue maker. It's s true, sometimes there are diff of opinions . We are all human and JP as well.
but I DO believe that everyone in this forum does respect him.

[LucLex3119]

There is a lot of JP haters on this Forum but none of them have the guts to ring the man and ask him direct about any issues. They find it much easier to criticise on social media sites.

[Ramon]

There is a lot of JP haters on this Forum but none of them have the guts to ring the man and ask him direct about any issues. They find it much easier to criticise on social media sites.

well, I'm afraid this gonna be a long discussion.
I do agree with you that sum matters should be discussed in private.
But you have to realize, as the name says, this is a forum.I have seen no indication here : JP is not allowed to enjoy this forum and give his comments about diff matters regarding him.
Personally, it would be an honor for me if he comes here and communicate with us about diff topics. so i can learn sumthing.
btw, belive it or not , JP is not the only one . it's true Maybe he gets sum extra attention compared to others ( sumthing I can understand, that guy is world famous after all). but on this forum , everyone have to deal with this kind of stuff ( even a poor idiot like me !! ).
as long as it happens in the context of respect, should be no problem to give ur opinion ( even if it's the wrong one ).

[LucLex3119]

Fair comment.

btw, JP does come on her now and then.

[cueman]

I don't feel as if I owe john an apology at all. There is nothing malicious in what I have posted imo. I also don't really need to ask him any questions about the process as I can see it clearly and secondly I don't really care whether it has been turned or hand planed. I have had a number of his cues knowing this. The reason I posted the thread was because a month or two ago a certain masterblaster was giving it all that about how all of johns cues were hand planed. This picture clearly shows the opposite, thats all I was showing. However whether they are turned on site or not I'm not sure. The cuts on the shafts did look fairly industrial though.

Sorry but I do find this a bit rich! You knew full well what you were doing, taking photos and then posting them on here, what did you expect exactly?

Couldn't you have taken the opportunity to ask him about the shafts whilst in his shop rather than surmising about what they might be? Sorry but you are banged to rights and JP wasn't happy about the fact you took these photos and decided to put them on here for all to see and comment about. You owe him an apology simple as, you created this situation the least you can do is apologise.

[Ramon]

the only problem is he makes such a great cues and i have no money to buy one , who knows maybe I'm gonna win the lottery

[RogiBear]

Sorry but I do find this a bit rich! You knew full well what you were doing, taking photos and then posting them on here, what did you expect exactly?

Couldn't you have taken the opportunity to ask him about the shafts whilst in his shop rather than surmising about what they might be? Sorry but you are banged to rights and JP wasn't happy about the fact you took these photos and decided to put them on here for all to see and comment about. You owe him an apology simple as, you created this situation the least you can do is apologise.

Really? I can't control what others comment or say after I have posted something. I couldn't speak to John even if I wanted to at the time as he wasn't there. What did I need to ask him about. The origins don't both me. There has been speculation over this for some time now, if I had a problem I wouldn't have ordered the cue from him. I also don't see how I am 'banged to rights' what exactly have I done wrong here?

[LucLex3119]

You said in your original post that when John went out back to get your cue you took a couple of sneaky pictures. You knew full well what those pictures would do. You could have asked John what those shafts were for or been a brave little boy and asked him out right if they were lathe turned.

I understand Mr Rogozinsky that you make cues. In fact I have seen one recently on eBay that didn't sell. Shall we start commenting on cheap shafts, poor splicings etc,,,, you get my point.
I fully back what Cueman has said and that you knew exactly what you would achieve by posting those pictures.

[RogiBear]

I did not say while John went to the back room!! I just said while fetching my cue from the back room. There was no need to ask what they were for, it was also very obvious they were turned on a lathe. You obviously have an affinity with John????

[Shads147]

Fair points all round but one things for sure. They were right there in a bundle and why? Inspection time?? Mmm. With so much truth? Hear say? Speculation? I'm sure people will make their own mind up.

[GeordieDS]

Nothing wrong with the OP as this is a Snooker forum is it not? After Thaiigate you can't blame him for taking the pics really

[LucLex3119]

I need to know more about Thai-gate. It's obviously certain cue makers getting caught using Thai shafts. It was mentioned that JO is one but is there proof or just people guessing and storing s**t for people. How do we know for sure that RC, MW and TW to name a few are not using Thai imported shafts?

[DeanH]

JO did say he used a number of pre-turned shafts - or was it premade cues which he splices/badged/finished? - but it was a low number (under 10 I believe) and I recall he said he contacted all the owners to explain the situation.