Parris visit

[ken147]

Boring!!! Sense a bit of deju vu...

[billabong]

JO did say he used a number of pre-turned shafts - or was it premade cues which he splices/badged/finished? - but it was a low number (under 10 I believe) and I recall he said he contacted all the owners to explain the situation.

He finished and badged 8 cues ( and like you say, connected the owners ), and he uses shafts bought in ( as explained on his website ).

[ken147]

Just wondering. Is Masterblaster using the forum with a new username?

[GeordieDS]

Just wondering. Is Masterblaster using the forum with a new username?

He might well be but it isn't Rogibear as the writing style is totally different, there's a couple much more obvious and i hope it is him because when he wasn't winding the Tsf Mafia up he was quite knowledgeable

[ADR147]

just a thought for those who think everybody should be hand planing their own shafts - almost nobody does, and even if they do the thai shafts are better - this is a fact, if you are willing to spend £80 on a shaft from thailand it is the business, better than we can buy in the UK. the end. Judge a cue on what the cue maker sends you, not how he put it together, should I moan that the water reservoir on my merc was made in spain not Germany?

[Ramon]

just a thought for those who think everybody should be hand planing their own shafts - almost nobody does, and even if they do the thai shafts are better - this is a fact, if you are willing to spend £80 on a shaft from thailand it is the business, better than we can buy in the UK. the end. Judge a cue on what the cue maker sends you, not how he put it together, should I moan that the water reservoir on my merc was made in spain not Germany?

+10 to this !!

[Dave Walton]

just a thought for those who think everybody should be hand planing their own shafts - almost nobody does, and even if they do the thai shafts are better - this is a fact, if you are willing to spend £80 on a shaft from thailand it is the business, better than we can buy in the UK. the end. Judge a cue on what the cue maker sends you, not how he put it together, should I moan that the water reservoir on my merc was made in spain not Germany?

Its the cuemakers deception that has always been my issue, Mercedes dont claim to make every part of their cars in germany unlike some cuemakers who claim to make a shaft themselves cutting a board of ash/maple down to blanks then planning to oversized tapered dowels leaving months between the stages in their own workshop and then fully making a cue from those dowels at uk labour costs adding those costs into the price of the cue when they havent done it. Essentially its fraud! I totally agree that its the end result that matters but dont charge customers for work you havent done and dont make false claims

[LucLex3119]

So it sounds like Jason Owens didn't do much wrong right? I haven't looked in to it that much and did think of getting a JO cue at one point. I mentioned in a previous thread that it must be very difficult to tell anyway where the shaft has come from but sounds like Jason needs commending for contacting the cue owners to say he sourced the shafts elsewhere. He didn't have too.

[jrc750]

So it sounds like Jason Owens didn't do much wrong right? I haven't looked in to it that much and did think of getting a JO cue at one point. I mentioned in a previous thread that it must be very difficult to tell anyway where the shaft has come from but sounds like Jason needs commending for contacting the cue owners to say he sourced the shafts elsewhere. He didn't have too.

He only did it because he got found out!
Did they get partial refunds? ?
Why wasn't the list of cues involved made available to all?
Do you believe it was only 8 or 10? ?

[LucLex3119]

So sounds like he only contacted the owners after he got found out?
That leads to people rightly thinking he has always done it and only contacted the owners once he got caught out. It's a shame because his cues look amazing. 👍

[ken147]

He might well be but it isn't Rogibear as the writing style is totally different, there's a couple much more obvious and i hope it is him because when he wasn't winding the Tsf Mafia up he was quite knowledgeable

I was thinking of a new member not Rogibear.

[Shockerz]

just a thought for those who think everybody should be hand planing their own shafts - almost nobody does, and even if they do the thai shafts are better - this is a fact, if you are willing to spend £80 on a shaft from thailand it is the business, better than we can buy in the UK. the end. Judge a cue on what the cue maker sends you, not how he put it together, should I moan that the water reservoir on my merc was made in spain not Germany?

After watching the Andy Hunter video the other day speaks about English Ash being the best ash for playing cues and the Heartwood section of the tree being the best due to it's straight grain; the chevrons (flowers) only there really for the decorative affect.

Don't know if the Thai shafts are considered the best now as they contain the heartwood on one side of the cut and the nice (decorative) chevrons on the other side or because they actually play better than a heartwood shaft that virtually has no decorative chevrons?

I don't know if you agree but does a more heartwood shaft play better as it's more solid and from the centre of the tree. It might seem a little off the point but I keep reading where the best shafts come from but I guess it determines if that's to look at, to play with, or a bit of both.

After visiting a timber yard the other day and spending a couple of hours sorting through different cuts of a whole tree it's amazing the difference in choice. Be nice to make a cue from each section of the same tree and judge that on a table.

[golferson123]

And I know who you mean

[ADR147]

After watching the Andy Hunter video the other day speaks about English Ash being the best ash for playing cues and the Heartwood section of the tree being the best due to it's straight grain; the chevrons (flowers) only there really for the decorative affect.

Don't know if the Thai shafts are considered the best now as they contain the heartwood on one side of the cut and the nice (decorative) chevrons on the other side or because they actually play better than a heartwood shaft that virtually has no decorative chevrons?

I don't know if you agree but does a more heartwood shaft play better as it's more solid and from the centre of the tree. It might seem a little off the point but I keep reading where the best shafts come from but I guess it determines if that's to look at, to play with, or a bit of both.

After visiting a timber yard the other day and spending a couple of hours sorting through different cuts of a whole tree it's amazing the difference in choice. Be nice to make a cue from each section of the same tree and judge that on a table.

would not help because every single piece of wood is different.

[Shockerz]

would not help because every single piece of wood is different.

Yeah, just wondered if they would be wildly different if made in the same way and if anyone have ever done it.