Oak

[GeordieDS]

Another ban for nothing - new owners same results

I've just noticed he's been banned again myself, had a look and no offensive posts??
Have we replaced Hitler with Idi Amin ffs?

[MikeWooldridge]

it is not a question of weight/density, it's about how the wood reacts in use.

ash has a natural flex/spring which lends itself to 'good' cue manufacture. oak is different, it may have similar weight/density but that's where the similarity ends.

you have to ask yourself why snooker cue makers have used ash, almost exclusively, for as long as cues have been made. and the answer is it makes a better playing cue than any other shaft wood.

[Big Splash!]

Erm, Hendry would disagree with that. 7 world titles with an 80 quid maple cue from Powerglide. He replaced it with a Parris Ultimate maple cue. It all depends on the player. Some like stiff maple or pear, others prefer a stiff ash cue. Some prefer whippier ash or a bit of flex in a maple/pear but the smoothness of these two timbers. No two humans have the same nerve endings or hands. Most prefer ash. But I've never met the average player with an average cue.

[billabong]

it is not a question of weight/density, it's about how the wood reacts in use.

ash has a natural flex/spring which lends itself to 'good' cue manufacture. oak is different, it may have similar weight/density but that's where the similarity ends.

you have to ask yourself why snooker cue makers have used ash, almost exclusively, for as long as cues have been made. and the answer is it makes a better playing cue than any other shaft wood.

I'd heard from a cue maker, that Ash was used originally because it struck the balance of having good characteristics for a shaft
( along with others like Maple, Alder, Pear, etc ) as well as bettering those others for cost and availability.

Some even select the Ash because it looks nice to them ( even though you need to stain it to get that look ).

Better than ANY other shaft wood ? That's a claim that's impossible to qualify IMHO.

[jrc750]

Erm, Hendry would disagree with that. 7 world titles with an 80 quid maple cue from Powerglide......

It was not an £80 cue tho was it ?
Or should I say it might of been an £80 cue but back then that was worth a hell of a lot more !

[winphenom]

It was not an £80 cue tho was it ?
Or should I say it might of been an £80 cue but back then that was worth a hell of a lot more !

Couldn't agree more with JRC. Like i did mention before, that cue is considered quite a good one during that time. Besides, i believe the woods used were better quality at that time too as it wasn't so commercialised and massively demanded like now.

Only those few old pros who used house rack cues were the outstanding ones.

[Big Splash!]

It was not an £80 cue tho was it ?
Or should I say it might of been an £80 cue but back then that was worth a hell of a lot more !

Yep, it would be more like 350 today if you look at their range and shop around. But it wouldn't be 1200!

Also, one of the best ams on here, inevermissblue hits the big numbers with a Joe Davis 147 Maple cue. You can buy good examples for £100. Stephen Lee, a great cueist, uses maple. I could go on. The point is, shaft wood is down to the feedback and feel across the bridge the player prefers. There's no magic answer.

[itsnoteasy]

I would prefer maple, just can't find one that hits as nice as ash does, but I would swap in heartbeat if I could find a nice one.

[Big Splash!]

I would prefer maple, just can't find one that hits as nice as ash does, but I would swap in heartbeat if I could find a nice one.

I know what you mean, you can find whippier maple but it's hard to find. I had a Jian Ying once, beautiful hit, plenty of give, regret selling it. I know where it is so maybe I could try and buy it back. Me old JD 147 had a lovely hit as well, 10,5mm tip, really nice for centre striking. Regret selling that. Love the feel of them; me and maple cues!

[vmax4steve]

I've just noticed he's been banned again myself, had a look and no offensive posts??
Have we replaced Hitler with Idi Amin ffs?

It's OK he's back making a big splash; got to admire his tenacity.

[Big Splash!]

Please do not link me with any other member. That's hardly a nice or polite thing to do. Thankyou.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Please do not link me with any other member. That's hardly a nice or polite thing to do. Thankyou.

Nice and polite? LOL!!!

[Big Splash!]

I confess to not being one for anger and swearing, hardly reactions that garner a positive reply or better outcome and relationship. This should not be the topic of humour though.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

I confess to not being one for anger and swearing, hardly reactions that garner a positive reply or better outcome and relationship. This should not be the topic of humour though.

Aye, butter wouldn't melt...

[vmax4steve]

An oak shafted cue I've nearly finished, bit of an experiment to be honest, thought I'd try some different things all at once so if it turned out crap I'd need only junk one.
Used some ash offcuts for the butt as I didn't want to waste any expensive hardwood and as the offcuts were different lengths I offset the splices, two long opposite each other and two short opposite each other, I think it looks OK and something that I will replicate in the future.

Will give it a beeswax polish finish this week, stick a tip on and have a game next weekend, let you all know how it plays.

Specs are
one piece oak shaft 60 & 1/2 inches long, 28.5mm diameter butt, 10mm tip with stainless steel ferrule, 15.2 oz's, 21 inch BP, ash butt with burnt oak veneers.