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[DeanH]

I use chrome with ad block, not windows 10 tho, stopped that nonsense lol. I'll try disabling the ad block for photobucket but never had a problem before

I had the Photobucket ADP problem with Win7
Stopped using ADP a few years ago, Chrome seems to combat popups quite well, especially at Fullscreen.

[jimmymoller]

Your right I think Dean my problems started with the Windows 10 update, worked for all of ten mins then somehow or other I lost internet explorer completely, firefox wont even open my googlemail account saying like it does for almost all sites they have not used a safe thingy or something. Getting popup from allover the place, Internet speed which was 51-55 via virgin now at best is 45 and that was after virgin upgraded it to 70 meg the day before I installed the Windows update.
Had a right game getting the update installed as it was 20 gig and as I have windows on a ssd drive I didn't have enough space for it till I deleted loads. Run 3 different virus scans and as many other malware thingys. It's doing my head in. Only solution I have methinks is to wipe the ssd completely and reinstall windows 8.1 off my disc but I spose i'll not get windows 10 then without paying for it.

[jimmymoller]

Well if you haven't tried one you are not qualified to comment on them

For me a good cue is the same as what you'd call a good cue with one exception. The price. And the stupid prices they are asking for their top cues especially as they are made in Asia where the average chippy earns a tenth of what one does here is qualification enough. I would not beg you for one.

I was going to show some pics and prices of the same design of cue. A multispliced cue I originally saw that Stamford had made (24 splices) 44 if you include the veneers. Dunno what he charges for one now but the pic is on his site. Next time I saw one was by Brittania cues at around £450 (English prices but china made) Jason Owen has made a few of them and they are for sale on royal cues or royal snooker or simlar site in hong kong for just over £1000 then on facebook theres a thia made one the same at £800 and the LP one the same on Alibaba at £650 ish excluding vat at 20% and royal mails international fee £8. Then I wanted to photograph mine which is as good as any of them and cost me less than £200 new.

Yes it really is as good as any of them. Better in fact than my Trevor White cue I sold not so long back.

[Big Splash!]

For me a good cue is the same as what you'd call a good cue with one exception. The price. And the stupid prices they are asking for their top cues especially as they are made in Asia where the average chippy earns a tenth of what one does here is qualification enough. I would not beg you for one.

I was going to show some pics and prices of the same design of cue. A multispliced cue I originally saw that Stamford had made (24 splices) 44 if you include the veneers. Dunno what he charges for one now but the pic is on his site. Next time I saw one was by Brittania cues at around £450 (English prices but china made) Jason Owen has made a few of them and they are for sale on royal cues or royal snooker or simlar site in hong kong for just over £1000 then on facebook theres a thia made one the same at £800 and the LP one the same on Alibaba at £650 ish excluding vat at 20% and royal mails international fee £8. Then I wanted to photograph mine which is as good as any of them and cost me less than £200 new.

Yes it really is as good as any of them. Better in fact than my Trevor White cue I sold not so long back.

Molly,

Please stop waffling; your use of our language is rather poor. As for comparing a Jason Owen cue to a Thai cue, how ironic. That faker uses shafts from.............................................T hailand!

But do post your photos, we all need a laugh now it's raining.

[itsnoteasy]

Who made your one Jimmy and when was it made?
The prices will be as high as the market will take,that's just the way things work, if we stopped buying them they would either stop making them, or the prices will come down, but we won't , some folk just like having an expensive cue, it's their money, they can buy what they want.

[jimmymoller]

Wrong again Muppet. For a start off I'm born and bred in the black country where it is a proven fact that our accent is more real English than any other as it is the nearest to anglo saxon as spoke by Shakespeare. The queens English as you no doubt will come out with is merely an accent adopted by the BBC from the Oxford area. Secondly but not that I give a monkeys I think you will find it was Jason that was accused of using Thai made shafts when in fact he did not. His accuser however now uses them exclusively.

[DeanH]

Wrong again Muppet. For a start off I'm born and bred in the black country where it is a proven fact that our accent is more real English than any other as it is the nearest to anglo saxon as spoke by Shakespeare. The queens English as you no doubt will come out with is merely an accent adopted by the BBC from the Oxford area. Secondly but not that I give a monkeys I think you will find it was Jason that was accused of using Thai made shafts when in fact he did not. His accuser however now uses them exclusively.

I believe Jason did, himself, admit to using about half a dozen Thai-sourced shafts in his very early days, he contacted those owners and he said they were happy to stay with what they have.
What his practises are nowadays, don't know and don't care

[jimmymoller]

I really don't care either and I'm buggered if I am going to spend a couple of hours again reading that particular thread just to correct the Olympic belly splasher but methinks Jason said he had bought in a few shafts without splices whereas it was Crispian who had contacted the six or so customers he had sold thai spliced shafted cues to that he had used as a base cue and one had sold his on at a £40 loss which Crispian refused to make up.
Anyways it's history. Both of them are selling cues at premium prices happily to the Chinese who are more gullable than most brits (barring the badge buying fraternity here on TSF.

[jimmymoller]

Who made your one Jimmy and when was it made?

An Asiian company, who else can make a quality cue at that price? Had it about a year mow.

The prices will be as high as the market will take,that's just the way things work, if we stopped buying them they would either stop making them, or the prices will come down, but we won't , some folk just like having an expensive cue, it's their money, they can buy what they want.

It's fine having an expensive cue however in my book there's a limit above which the seller is just taking rhe P

[Big Splash!]

Yeah, we don't want honest Cue Makers in this country making good cues and a decent living. Let's all be tight arses, run the country into the ground and exploit Thai workers on peanuts. Bravo!

@Molly, don't have a laff mate, yam a yam-yam dingo and you know it. The 'Queens English', what a load of tripe. No Queens have ever been resident or spoken with Black Country accents. York maybe, London and the South yes. The Midlands; you are full of chitterlings bruv. :biggrin-new:

Crispian still uses Thai shafts on his cues, except for the Signature editions, whose shafts he makes himself but they cost a bit more as well. He's an honest cue maker who has never hidden from the truth so don't besmirch him; he's a great TSF member as well. Jason, god knows, probably still using Thai shafts. Some Guru he was. Bhat guru maybe.

Get off the meths and your memory might come back! :biggrin-new:

For example you've written ''For a start off I'm born and bred in the black country....'' and your signature says:

''Aus snooker is where it was at but I''m an Aussie over here now.''

So, your an Aussie, born and bred in the Black Country. Are you sure? :biggrin-new: Moller does sound like Muller. Maybe you're German, who knows eh. :biggrin-new:

[itsnoteasy]

An Asiian company, who else can make a quality cue at that price? Had it about a year mow.



It's fine having an expensive cue however in my book there's a limit above which the seller is just taking rhe P

I'm in two minds if it's taking the mickey, I get that a fair profit is fine but way beyond that could be seen as taking the pee, on the other hand no one is forced to buy them and if they think they are worth it ,it's their money ,so fair enough.
As for your cue being made in Asia , there is a chance that they are actually making more of a percentage profit on £200 than our cue makers are making on £7 or 800 by the time they pay import duties, vat, wages, etc etc.

[Big Splash!]

INE, If a TSF guy actually makes the cue with a plane and it takes 15-20hrs. Is £300 really taking the pee? Once you've chopped out over £100 of materials, he's only earning a tenner an hour before tax. He could get more labouring or cutting the grass. Businesses like Glover have light, heat, rent, accountants and tax to pay. So I don't think 500 is extortionate either, not from a proper business. Cue Craft will make a custom for 400. I think Craftsmen used to do something similar. Now Ton Praram will make a good cue for 350 but that's because Thai wages are lower. If you want to support cue makers in this country and keep the craft going, is paying an extra 50-100 quid really a rip-off. Not in my book.

[itsnoteasy]

INE, If a TSF guy actually makes the cue with a plane and it takes 15-20hrs. Is £300 really taking the pee? Once you've chopped out over £100 of materials, he's only earning a tenner an hour before tax. He could get more labouring or cutting the grass. Businesses like Glover have light, heat, rent, accountants and tax to pay. So I don't think 500 is extortionate either, not from a proper business. Cue Craft will make a custom for 400. I think Craftsmen used to do something similar. Now Ton Praram will make a good cue for 350 but that's because Thai wages are lower. If you want to support cue makers in this country and keep the craft going, is paying an extra 50-100 quid really a rip-off. Not in my book.

Not at all, £300 is not too much, £1000 ? Different story maybe, but as I said if you have the money and are happy to pay that, good luck to you, are you getting a better playing cue? Who knows.James butters can make and sell them for under £100 but I realise there is a difference between a hobbyist and someone who does it as their full time job. I don't know if any cue maker would come out and say what it costs them to make a cue, even then how do you price up the knowledge and experience they gave gathered.

[itsnoteasy]

It wouldn't surprise me if the folk who resell the top end cues on make as much as the actual cue maker did.

[Big Splash!]

It wouldn't surprise me if the folk who resell the top end cues on make as much as the actual cue maker did.

Yep, that's why there are cue makers in this country ordering cues from Thailand, sticking badges on and making 800 quid profit on each one. But they're not the honest ones making em by hand for 300.