Looking after your cue!

[ADR147]

This link to John Parris site maybe helpful, all about cue care.

https://www.parriscues.com/site/cue_care/

parris says the same as me and his cues are oil finished.......

[TooDark]

Lol, I use a little bit of furniture polish on a soft cloth and drag it down from tip to butt then quickly buff. If done regularly then not a lot of dirt/chalk to clean, also good to get in habit of leaning at a angle when chalking to minimise chalk on shaft.
I also from time to time after a wipe down leave some cue wax on for 15mins and then use some wax furniture polish sprayed on soft cloth and drag excess cuewax off and buff for 5mins with heat generated helps to cure it.
I have had no problems doing this way and all helps to have a protective seal with no stickiness(even in summer!).
Some people might say this is not a correct way of treating cue but I'm happy with results and I'm a bit of a fanny with looking after my cues also. I'm in no way harming cue whatsoever and believe cue is better for it. No light sanding or wire wool used or needed as cue should have a good original sealed at start and all your doing keeping/adding to it. You won't catch me sanding shaft as best lefted alone.
Probably gonna get shot down now lol:biggrin:

Edit: furniture polish I use i specially buy just for this job and it called Lord Sheraton Caretaker silicone free beeswax and other precious natural oils.

[Ramon]

This link to John Parris site maybe helpful, all about cue care.

https://www.parriscues.com/site/cue_care/

you forgot to mention that you have already made a century break and ADR is a Great guy to deal with.


Just saying !!

[Ramon]

I don't get mad unless you do something detrimental to the forum!

Good to know .


I've sent a mail to Wood Specialist team of predator and another one in UK ( just in case you do'nt trust USA ) . I have pointed out your opinion in regards to Sand Slr. I expect to get the answer tonight. I'm gonna get back to this point asa I'm off the work.

[Ramon]

Good to know .


I've sent a mail to Wood Specialist team of predator and another one in UK ( just in case you do'nt trust USA ) . I have pointed out your opinion in regards to Sand Slr. I expect to get the answer tonight. I'm gonna get back to this point asa I'm off the work.

not if the wood is coated in a sealer.

well, I got the answer sooner than expected. Here is my a kopie of my mail and thr replay . Enjoy !!

<<<

Hi ,



I had a discussion with someone in regards to using water to clean the shaft (cue pool/snooker cue).
I believe using a damp cloth or water can be harmful to the shaft.
He claims, that water can not harm a cue/shaft coated with sanding sealer. I believe it can.


Not to mention that water has not enough power to take the chalk off the wood
and the chalk remains on the wood and this will damage the shaft in a lang run.

I can use your opinion about this matter , if you have time , of cours.I appreciate it.


Kind regards ,

Ramon >>>>




<<<<< Hi Ramon ,


You are correct in this situation. You NEVER want to use any water based cleaners on not just Predator shafts,
but any shafts. The water will seep into the seams
regardless of the sanding sealer. It doesn't work that way with shafts.


To be completely safe with your shaft, use a towel slightly dampened with rubbing alcohol.
After cleaning, use a leather burnisher or similar material to seal the shaft.
Using a Carnuba wax may also help to seal the shaft and protect it from moisture.
To avoid damage, do not sand the shaft; no abrasive is necessary.
Do not expose the shaft to excessive moisture and do not steam it to remove dings.
Importantly, do not use any water-based cleaner.




Thank you for contacting us first before taking someones word on this matter.
This could have turned into a bad situation down the road.




If you ever have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.




Kind Regards






Predator Group Warranty & Repair

Predator Group | 702 E. Chicago Rd | Coldwater, MI 49036

(P) +1.517.278.2013 | (Toll Free) +1.800.624.9320 | >>>>>





Still waiting for another replay from UK , though .

[itsnoteasy]

I don't know if this makes any difference and I'm just asking out of my own curiosity but are those pie type laminated shafts they are talking about Ramon, although I did see he said no water on any shaft. I think there are better things than water to clean things( obviously) but there may be a wee bit of a misunderstanding with the wording of "a damp cloth" and "using water" the cloth is as dry as you can get a damp cloth, if that makes sense ,so it's not like you are using water to wash your shaft and because it's on and off in seconds and with the heat of rubbing with a dry cloth , I can't see it leading to a bad situation, as I said maybe laminated shafts are different but I don't think anyone is saying wash the shaft with water.

[markz]

you forgot to mention that you have already made a century break and ADR is a Great guy to deal with.


Just saying !!

I was giving information to the opening poster that he was asking for and supplying a reasonable source of knowledge from John Parris. Sure he's forgotten more about cues than we will ever know. Plus you are right again, ADR is a great guy to deal with.

[Ramon]

I don't know if this makes any difference and I'm just asking out of my own curiosity but are those pie type laminated shafts they are talking about Ramon, although I did see he said no water on any shaft. I think there are better things than water to clean things( obviously) but there may be a wee bit of a misunderstanding with the wording of "a damp cloth" and "using water" the cloth is as dry as you can get a damp cloth, if that makes sense ,so it's not like you are using water to wash your shaft and because it's on and off in seconds and with the heat of rubbing with a dry cloth , I can't see it leading to a bad situation, as I said maybe laminated shafts are different but I don't think anyone is saying wash the shaft with water.

Good points .


TBH, I was'nt talking with a cue maker. This guys have studied the wood and how it would react to water and many other chemicals over years.
They are the guys who advising the cue makers to use diff kind of timbers or avoid them. I can sure you they know what they are talking about.

The problem is that many players do believe,, well I'm just take a damp cloth and dry the shaft up. Unfortunately, that's just in theory. In reality, the water is alrready soaked in the wood.
Let a small drop of water falling on a piece of handkerchief. And see how quickly the water will seep into it. that is exactly how fast the water will seep in the shaft. it's sumthing we can'nt see neither notice with our eyes .
I do agree with you that a damp cloth can do no harm at the time . But that would be diff in a long run .
on another note , As already mentioned , a damp cloth can'nt take the chalk off the wood . about 40/50 prct of the chalk will stick on the shaft ( sumthing you do'nt notice ). Next time when you use the damp cloth again , the chalk remaning on the shaft will soak into the wood . This will damage the quality of the wood in a long run.
Just last month i saw a player shows up with a JP cue. When I said to him ,, wouw JP red glue how nice ,,
He said . No it's not . I bouth the cue last year.
About 20 inches down the ferrule was totally discolored (Green crap ). which is the reason why I thought, this JP is from 80 's.
This is one of the players who is using a damp cloth every time. Unfortunately, it is too late for him. The chalk is soaked in the wood and damage is already done.

although, waiting at the moment for another replay from UK ( sumone who's specialized in wood ). You never know , he may have a diff opinion

I do not give the wrong info to any one just cuz a Cue maker said so.
But at the end of the day , each on his own.

Btw, i think they are referring to any kind of shaft ( as i read it ). I also metioned in my mail ( snooker cues ).

[Ramon]

I was giving information to the opening poster that he was asking for and supplying a reasonable source of knowledge from John Parris. Sure he's forgotten more about cues than we will ever know. Plus you are right again, ADR is a great guy to deal with.

Cues ?? yes , agreed.

and, thanks to let us know how great ADR is again .

[narl]

well, I got the answer sooner than expected. Here is my a kopie of my mail and thr replay . Enjoy !!

<<<

Hi ,



I had a discussion with someone in regards to using water to clean the shaft (cue pool/snooker cue).
I believe using a damp cloth or water can be harmful to the shaft.
He claims, that water can not harm a cue/shaft coated with sanding sealer. I believe it can.


Not to mention that water has not enough power to take the chalk off the wood
and the chalk remains on the wood and this will damage the shaft in a lang run.

I can use your opinion about this matter , if you have time , of cours.I appreciate it.


Kind regards ,

Ramon >>>>




<<<<< Hi Ramon ,


You are correct in this situation. You NEVER want to use any water based cleaners on not just Predator shafts,
but any shafts. The water will seep into the seams
regardless of the sanding sealer. It doesn't work that way with shafts.


To be completely safe with your shaft, use a towel slightly dampened with rubbing alcohol.
After cleaning, use a leather burnisher or similar material to seal the shaft.
Using a Carnuba wax may also help to seal the shaft and protect it from moisture.
To avoid damage, do not sand the shaft; no abrasive is necessary.
Do not expose the shaft to excessive moisture and do not steam it to remove dings.
Importantly, do not use any water-based cleaner.




Thank you for contacting us first before taking someones word on this matter.
This could have turned into a bad situation down the road.




If you ever have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.




Kind Regards






Predator Group Warranty & Repair

Predator Group | 702 E. Chicago Rd | Coldwater, MI 49036

(P) +1.517.278.2013 | (Toll Free) +1.800.624.9320 | >>>>>





Still waiting for another replay from UK , though .

Snooker cue shafts don't have "seams" though so he seems to be referring to that laminated shaft caper where a pool cue is made up of numerous segments. I've never had any issues with water when wiping down a cue, parris recommends it as does Mike Wooldridge and others.

[Cue crafty]

Lol, I use a little bit of furniture polish on a soft cloth and drag it down from tip to butt then quickly buff. If done regularly then not a lot of dirt/chalk to clean, also good to get in habit of leaning at a angle when chalking to minimise chalk on shaft.
I also from time to time after a wipe down leave some cue wax on for 15mins and then use some wax furniture polish sprayed on soft cloth and drag excess cuewax off and buff for 5mins with heat generated helps to cure it.
I have had no problems doing this way and all helps to have a protective seal with no stickiness(even in summer!).
Some people might say this is not a correct way of treating cue but I'm happy with results and I'm a bit of a fanny with looking after my cues also. I'm in no way harming cue whatsoever and believe cue is better for it. No light sanding or wire wool used or needed as cue should have a good original sealed at start and all your doing keeping/adding to it. You won't catch me sanding shaft as best lefted alone.
Probably gonna get shot down now lol:biggrin:

Edit: furniture polish I use i specially buy just for this job and it called Lord Sheraton Caretaker silicone free beeswax and other precious natural oils.

I use Lord Sheraton too, have done since I was a kid. I wipe my cue down after a session at home with a detol wipe, dry with paper towel, then use this. Nice results.

[Ramon]

Snooker cue shafts don't have "seams" though so he seems to be referring to that laminated shaft caper where a pool cue is made up of numerous segments. I've never had any issues with water when wiping down a cue, parris recommends it as does Mike Wooldridge and others.

of cours not .

I you have no issues with water , then you should do it. If it works for you , why not using it ? :snooker:

[sanman]

of cours not .

I you have no issues with water , then you should do it. If it works for you , why not using it ? :snooker:

using water like throwing water at wood in copious amounts is one thing. Wiping off with a damp cloth is a completely different matter. if a cue is waxed or oiled previously then there would be no damage done to wood when using a damp cloth.

[Ramon]

using water like throwing water at wood in copious amounts is one thing. Wiping off with a damp cloth is a completely different matter. if a cue is waxed or oiled previously then there would be no damage done to wood when using a damp cloth.

Please read the thread and previous posts, cuz your answer has already been given in previous posts.
if You're still not convinced, than i wish you many luck and fun with using as many damp cloth as you can.

[billabong]

Good points .



Let a small drop of water falling on a piece of handkerchief. And see how quickly the water will seep into it. that is exactly how fast the water will seep in the shaft. it's sumthing we can'nt see neither notice with our eyes .

Try it with a handkerchief that has been treated with linseed oil, and see how the water just runs off the surface of said handkerchief.